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Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:45 am to olddawg26
Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:45 am to olddawg26
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His very first sentence I'd say is viewed completely differently from the pov of legal immigrants.
Donald Trump got 30% of the Hispanic vote and had many legal immigrants working on his campaign.
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And will Hispanics have to constantly carry their birth certificate everywhere they go? And if they don't have them whats to say an over eager border patrol agent won't deport them? I'm not saying that this will happen often It's all just royally fricked up.
Do you really think a border patrol agent just grabs someone up and throws them on a bus?
It doesn't work that way. quote:
Tomorrow go out and ask really ANY minority the first feeling they felt when they woke up today
Since Tbird is posting in this thread, I don't think it is really necessary to go out and ask - but since you brought it up could you please tell the group what process you went through to earn the position of official spokesman for all minorities?
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 10:47 am
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 10:55 am to ghusbhus
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-LGBT - The guy has been nothing but friendly toward this community. Even going so far to allow transgendered bathrooms on his properties. As far as I've seen, the guy is pretty far left when it comes to homosexuals and transsexuals.
Well let's see who he chose as his running mate. Pence has...
Said
"gay couples signaled ‘societal collapse"
Supported a constitutional amendment to ban marriage equality
Complained about the passage of the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes bill
Served on the board of an antigay group
Argued that passing ENDA would ban Bibles from the workplace
So... while I don't think trump is very antigay, I more so he probably just doesn't really care one way or the other. Hope he isn't persuaded easily by pence.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:36 am to olddawg26
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while I don't think trump is very antigay, I more so he probably just doesn't really care one way or the other.
Tbh, I think that's where most normal conservatives land on the issue at this point. I truly do not care.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:39 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Tbh, I think that's where most normal conservatives land on the issue at this point. I truly do not care.
That's where I stand. Not that I think DJT is a conservative, I honestly think that socially he's more liberal than Hillary.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:43 am to TbirdSpur2010
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. I truly do not care.
Same
I don't like it rammed down our throats, either though. Tolerance and support are two very different things.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 11:48 am to Vols&Shaft83
Right but when you "don't care" does that mean you'll be completely fine with pence revoking marriage equality?
Let me rephrase- will you have problems with this administration if they *try* to repeal something like marriage equality
Let me rephrase- will you have problems with this administration if they *try* to repeal something like marriage equality
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 11:54 am
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:02 pm to olddawg26
I'd rather work on repealing obamacare and have the government less involved in marriages (of any kind) altogether, tbh.
It's a wheels-spinning issue at this point, IMO.
It's a wheels-spinning issue at this point, IMO.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:07 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I cant upvote that post enough.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:09 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I don't think repealing obamacare is going to be hard. It got stripped down and is a disaster. I think what the left, or at least a lot of my friends, are concerned about is a cultural step backwards with our advancements in social programs. So when you see all these people so upset and scared right now, it's just not a good move to call them crybabies or say they should grow up, they're genuinely concerned for their rights, and the temperament shift in the country by the majority.
So when you say you don't care about minority rights, and don't care if they start going backwards or at least stopping progress, that's the reason we have the protests right now.
So when you say you don't care about minority rights, and don't care if they start going backwards or at least stopping progress, that's the reason we have the protests right now.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:16 pm to olddawg26
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So when you say you don't care about minority rights, and don't care if they start going backwards or at least stopping progress, that's the reason we have the protests right now.
What minority rights are under attack by Donald Trump? Be specific because I have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:35 pm to olddawg26
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Well let's see who he chose as his running mate. Pence has...
Said
"gay couples signaled ‘societal collapse"
Supported a constitutional amendment to ban government-regulated marriage
Complained about the passage of the Hate Crimes bill named after the guy that got murdered by his gay lover, but had the story twisted to make it appear to be an actual hate crime while using the entire gay community as a political prop, at their insistence.
Served on the board of a pro-traditional family group
Argued that passing ENDA would ban Bibles from the workplace, and was correct in regards to how it has affected the Federal and military workplace.
I personally don't see a problem with any of this. I also fixed several of your statements to accurately reflect the truth.
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So... while I don't think trump is very antigay, I more so he probably just doesn't really care one way or the other. Hope he isn't persuaded easily by pence.
Again, he went out of his way to say that trannies could use whatever bathrooms they want on his properties.....in the middle of a republican primary....when he was in a dead heat with Ted Cruz. Whether you agree with him or not on the topic, I think it's safe to say he feels strongly about it, and probably can't be influenced by Pence on that topic.
I for one hope that he lets Pence draft the vast majority of his policies. I'd be quite happy with a President Pence in 8 years.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:44 pm to olddawg26
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they're genuinely concerned for their rights
that's ok but nothing has happened to their rights as of yet
nothing has changed since Trump was elected and they lose their minds
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:47 pm to JustGetItRight
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Do you really think a border patrol agent just grabs someone up and throws them on a bus? It doesn't work that way.
No, but have there been instances where Americans have been wrongfully deported?
Yes
LINK
Yes, the US wrongly deports its own citizens
Like I said before I don't think we'll see too many cases of this it does happen.
And while yes while Tbird is clearly black he's just one person. If your sample size is just him, or even all the black posters on this TD and the rant (I'll honestly be shocked if they're are more than 20 of us) don't you think that's skewing the data somewhat?
And no I'm not a spokesman for all black people or minorities, nor did I claim to be. I've just listened to what my family, friends, random people on Twitter and in real life, many who are conservatives and Republicans- hell, even some libertarians me
Everyone has their own thoughts and opinions on the election. But there is an overwhelming uneasiness in these communities. It's up to Trump to quell these fears and show that he's for them.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:48 pm to olddawg26
Why would you want the government involved in marriage at all?
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:04 pm to ghusbhus
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Why would you want the government involved in marriage at all?
It shouldn't be. People should have the right to marry whoever they want with out repercussion.
However churches should also have to right to not perform marriage ceremonies if they don't agree with the union with repercussions.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:08 pm to Carolina Tide
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However churches should also have to right to not perform marriage ceremonies if they don't agree with the union with repercussions.
Has that ever not been the case? It's not like I can waltz into a Catholic church and demand they marry me despite the fact I'm not Catholic.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:09 pm to Carolina Tide
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However churches should also have to right to not perform marriage ceremonies if they don't agree with the union with repercussions.
I can't believe you just said this. You homophobic racist bigot rapist Islamaphobic bastard. You sicken me.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:23 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I can't believe you just said this. You homophobic racist bigot rapist Islamaphobic bastard. You sicken me.
Well you'll just have to suck it up you thinned skinned liberal SJW pussy.
TRUMP! MAGA!
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:25 pm to Carolina Tide
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Tomorrow go out and ask really ANY minority the first feeling they felt when they woke up today.
this minority lady gets it
sorry not sorry you were so wrong :(
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:34 pm to olddawg26
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Well let's see who he chose as his running mate. Pence has...
Said
"gay couples signaled ‘societal collapse"
Supported a constitutional amendment to ban marriage equality
Complained about the passage of the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes bill
Served on the board of an antigay group
Argued that passing ENDA would ban Bibles from the workplace
So... while I don't think trump is very antigay, I more so he probably just doesn't really care one way or the other. Hope he isn't persuaded easily by pence
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