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re: How does MS, GA, TN & FLA have a lottery and Alabama doesn't?

Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:42 pm to
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:42 pm to
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The answer is the Poarch Creek Indians won't allow it. The same group that offered almost 200 million bucks just a few months back to close the gap in the AL general fund, but only if legislators promised to not propose any gaming legislation.


The only time it was actually voted on, Alabama residents voted it down.

"A poll in late August showed that 61 percent of those surveyed were ready to vote for the lottery, but later surveys showed that number shrinking after ministers began organizing against it.

The Rev. Joe Bob Mizzell, director of Christian ethics for the Alabama Baptist Convention, said no issue had united so many ministers from differing denominations."

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Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
2496 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:09 pm to
It's not like Alabama doesn't have gambling, It's just that the proceeds don't benefit...directly education.

Isn't there some horse/dog racing allowed in Alabama? I don't know, Alabama is just someplace that I have to travel through, to get someplace else.

Wasn't there some kinda computer controlled algorithm that favored an Auburn commitment?

I really don't care when it comes to the chicanery of recruitment. They do what they have to do. Processing.

Alabama doesn't have a lottery, because there are too many people that profit without a lottery.

Unlike Georgia, which uses these windfalls to go forward. Make a difference, encourage...

"To teach, to serve, to inquire about things".
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 6:19 pm to
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I've lived in Alabama all my life and I can't wrap my mind around it. How did the lottery/gaming come about in other SE states? Why not here?


Several years ago, it came up for vote. The religious right rallied behind voting "No" and then patted themselves on the back when it got defeated.
Posted by nuwaydawg
Member since Nov 2007
2496 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:44 pm to
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Several years ago, it came up for vote. The religious right rallied behind voting "No" and then patted themselves on the back when it got defeated.



This is bullshite.

You can bet on horse and dog racing in Alabama. This has been going on for years. If the religious right was as powerful as you make them out to be, don't you think they would have tried to stop this?

Bottom line, gaming in Alabama is privately owned. These entities don't want a state sponsored lottery.



Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 8:50 pm to
AUM did a good research on the impact a lottery would have.

Governor Bently says it's a "tax on poor people", yet those people just travel to our neighbor states and spend their cash there.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 9:22 pm to
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The only time it was actually voted on, Alabama residents voted it down.



That was nearly 20 years ago.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:19 am to
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That was nearly 20 years ago.


The point is that it was the thumpers, more than any other factor, that has been the reason there is no lottery. Hopefully, though, if it comes again to a vote, there will be enough reasonable voters that it passes.

"A poll in late August showed that 61 percent of those surveyed were ready to vote for the lottery, but later surveys showed that number shrinking after ministers began organizing against it.

The Rev. Joe Bob Mizzell, director of Christian ethics for the Alabama Baptist Convention, said no issue had united so many ministers from differing denominations."
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 7:31 am to
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You can bet on horse and dog racing in Alabama.



There are only 1 or 2 places in Alabama that still run dogs, and horse betting is only done via simulcast. I'm not even sure there are any places left in the state that offer horse betting. Birmingham had a short lived horse track in the early to mid 90's, but it never really caught on here. Most of the dog tracks went to video bingo machines, which the prior administration(Bob Riley) went after at the request of the Poarch Creek Indians.

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gaming in Alabama is privately owned


I guess if you want to label the Poarch Creek Indians a private entity, you're right. They have Montgomery bought and paid for, so no gambling legislation will get anywhere.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/14/16 at 8:38 am to
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You can bet on horse and dog racing in Alabama. This has been going on for years. If the religious right was as powerful as you make them out to be, don't you think they would have tried to stop this?


Dog racing passed a few years later. The churches didn't rally behind stopping it nearly as much as they did the lottery.

I vividly recall the outspoken critics in my own church rallying against the lottery.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7142 posts
Posted on 6/14/16 at 5:15 pm to
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The answer is the Poarch Creek Indians won't allow it. The same group that offered almost 200 million bucks just a few months back to close the gap in the AL general fund, but only if legislators promised to not propose any gaming legislation.



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Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3835 posts
Posted on 6/15/16 at 10:52 am to
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