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re: How Do White People From Alabama Feel About "Selma" Here?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:54 am to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:54 am to TbirdSpur2010
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It's just a descriptor Black people did have to struggle both for freedom and for civil rights. Not sure what the issue is.
Yeah ... right. We know. We just got on boats, with little to nothing, sailed across the deep blue sea, got off the boats and it was all waiting on us. Everything was handed to us. No hardships. No pioneering. No fighting for rights and independence.
Sheeeesh. All my family history dating back to the mid to late 1600s in this country ... I need to go tell Mom and Dad it was all bullshite. How tough my ancestors had it. All the wars my ancestors fought-in for independence, for states rights, to just own a couple of acres of land ... to sharecrop in South Carolina and Mississippi and Tennessee. The sacrifices to start our own businesses, to raise families without a government handout.
Yeah - no struggles. It was all handed to us.
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Like, any movie about Europeans?
If you're talking about American whites, the majority typically doesn't have to struggle, so not sure what you're getting at.
But if you wanna go there, we could name movies that had to do with the American Revolution
Any movie about Europeans? Wut?
Majority of whites typically doesn't have to struggle?
lulz
The white middle class is the fastest declining sector of this country ... because they are carrying the leaches on their backs, the leaches on the government dole, the white middle class is with their overtaxed, overburdened $50-$75k American dream, of which more than half is being taken away from them by Uncle Sugar and given to other people just so they can breed more liberal progressive voters.
40% of this country, the working 40% ... is paying for the other 60%. That's a fact. And the number of people on welfare and government assistance has doubled in the past six years ... "Obama money," "Obama phones," "Obamacare." It's just bullshite.
The "majority" black man is still a slave ... he's just a better paid, less worked and less driven slave than he was before. He's like the sheep and cow in the field ... as long as they are being fed and left to do as they will, they're happy. It's pathetic. I drive by corners in every small town where the "majority" black man is standing on the corner, around a 55 gallon drum full of broken pallets burning, drinking cheap liquor and waiting on the welfare checks. Our education system is in the crapper ... why is that? Fifty years ago it was the finest on the planet. Now we're what, 28th in the world? And it's sinking fast too because of the shithooks in the schools letting anything and everything go ... Detroit and Memphis are two fine examples of formerly shining cities on the hill gone to shite.
Movies about the American Revolution? How about movies about the sacrifices made during every war since ... by majority white people? About how so many of us "majority white people" stood up for our fellow human beings, sometimes against our own families, when it came to civil rights, to equal opportunity?
How about movies about white people being brutally murdered by entitled blacks? About white people walking down the road and having some black punk sneak up behind them and hammer them in the nugget over some "knockout" game ... 100s of them! Women now paralyzed, old people dead, either from the punch or from their head hitting the pavement. Or the 72 year old white man I saw on the news the other night who was hit from behind in Chicago and is now paralyzed ... for simply walking down the street he has lived-on since 1951!
But let's not limit it to just blacks and whites. By gosh let's get the Chinese and Koreans involved, and the Latinos! How many Korean businesses were burned to the ground during the Rodney King riots? How many business were burned to the ground during the Ferguson riots ... and by whom? But they ain't havin' it tough right now ... and it's all the white man's fault. shite ... I guess everyone has had it easy ... oh, except the blacks.
Thankfully, I know very few blacks, or at least none that I call friends, who subscribe to this constant bullshite about how mistreated they are. Sure, every now and then I'll hear something about a perceived slight by a LEO because someone was driving a nice car ... but even that is usually laughed off. Hell, I've been pulled-over for driving my old truck and looking like a redneck. I was once even pulled because I was a well-known Gamecock fan driving in Clemson country near the home of a recruit ... and I didn't even know it ... by a Clemson fan cop who ran my tags because he saw the sticker on my car.
I laughed all that crap off. Most sane people with thick skin and without an entitlement mentality do ... oh, and we do what the cops ask us to do, especially when a gun is drawn. That's called, "making it easy on yourself." Or, "taking personal responsibility for one's actions."
Here's the problem with your way of thinking TBird ... IMHO.
If Hollywood and TV keeps pushing this false narrative about how whites are out to get blacks ... and they keep stirring the shite, well, eventually it's all gonna blow-up and this thing of ours, this great experiment we like to call The United States of America ... it's gonna all come crashing down. People of all colors on both sides are getting tired of the bullshite being perpetrated upon us - the non-stop lies, the revisionist history and the fricking shite stirring false-narratives about this and that or whoever has sand up their asses on a particular day.
It's getting old. That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:28 am to AlaTiger
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One, no one can make you feel guilty.
Two, you should not feel guilty for anything that you haven't done.
Three, you can learn about history and then reflect on how what happened in the past might have affected us up until the present, and
Four, you can think about ways that we can try to move forward with those who are still affected by the past - which happens in every society, by the way. I know that because I know history.
But, do not feel guilty for something that you had no role in. That makes no sense.
I personally do not feel guilty. I said being made to feel guilty, as in these are guilt trip movies. I like to think I'm well versed in American history. I plan to be a professor of it in the near future. So I'm well aware of the spectre of racism, but in general I think these movies drudge up negative feelings for everyone. True, those times shouldn't be forgotten, but I think that it's a bit excessive right now.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:41 am to scrooster
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We just got on boats, with little to nothing, sailed across the deep blue sea, got off the boats and it was all waiting on us. Everything was handed to us. No hardships. No pioneering. No fighting for rights and independence.
That's what I'm saying. There are movies about the foundings of America and early struggles. You're looking for a slight where there isn't one.
At the same time, however, surely you'll agree that over the course of any nation's history, minorities usually have had to fight much harder for the same consideration as the majority. It's just a function of society, not saying that y'all didn't have to fight to become the majority.
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Majority of whites typically doesn't have to struggle?
For civil rights in this country? No. Come on, now
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How about movies about white people being brutally murdered by entitled blacks? About white people walking down the road and having some black punk sneak up behind them and hammer them in the nugget over some "knockout" game ... 100s of them! Women now paralyzed, old people dead, either from the punch or from their head hitting the pavement. Or the 72 year old white man I saw on the news the other night who was hit from behind in Chicago and is now paralyzed ... for simply walking down the street he has lived-on since 1951!
You want a movie about the knockout game? And are saying that's tantamount to the civil rights movement? Absurd comparison.
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Most sane people with thick skin and without an entitlement mentality do ... oh, and we do what the cops ask us to do, especially when a gun is drawn. That's called, "making it easy on yourself." Or, "taking personal responsibility for one's actions."
Lost in your little rant is that most black people do this as well. The media sensationalizes these stories and the American public laps it up.
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Here's the problem with your way of thinking TBird ... IMHO.
If Hollywood and TV keeps pushing this false narrative about how whites are out to get blacks ... and they keep stirring the shite, well, eventually it's all gonna blow-up and this thing of ours, this great experiment we like to call The United States of America ... it's gonna all come crashing down.
This right here is paranoia and hyperbole. IDGAF what you think, race relations in this country continue to improve by leaps and bounds, despite these overblown news stories.
And if anyone, white or black, sees a movie like Selma and concludes that whites are out to get blacks, then they are not a conscientous film watcher and were looking for something to feed such a bias. It's really that simple.
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It's getting old. That's all I'm saying.
You've gone way off the deep end here, old sport.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:47 am to CrimsonCrusade
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those times shouldn't be forgotten, but I think that it's a bit excessive right now.
Excessive how? You say these times shouldn't be forgotten, then what, pray tell, is an acceptable quota for these types of movies? I mean, hell, if nothing else, they showcase the talent in the field of black actors. For crying out loud, it's 2015, and the last major movie that came out dealing with Egypt featured white actors sporting spray-tans
Y'all act like hollywood is awash with these films, but it's a low percentage of the big budget films that come out of there every year.
And if watching a film dealing with the subject makes you feel uncomfortable, then that's on YOU. Sensible people can watch these movies without instantly turning it into present-day animosity. Most do.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:08 am to CrimsonCrusade
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but in general I think these movies drudge up negative feelings for everyone.
They only dredge up negative feelings if you allow them to. I think they dredge up positive feelings as they illustrate how far we've come.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:36 am to TbirdSpur2010
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For crying out loud, it's 2015, and the last major movie that came out dealing with Egypt featured white actors sporting spray-tans
Yall just best not mess with 007.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:54 am to Alahunter
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Yall just best not mess with 007.
The name's Elba.
Idris Elba
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:48 pm to genro
Nah, still just scuttlebutt from what I've gathered.
Plus, I just watched Pacific Rim the other night and got my Elba geekin' on again

Plus, I just watched Pacific Rim the other night and got my Elba geekin' on again
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:55 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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The name's Elba.
Idris Elba
frick. That.
But seriously, Bond is a white guy.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:57 pm to pvilleguru
I think of Bond as a British guy, not a white guy. The actor is British. Casting a white American would be way more controversial.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:58 pm to pvilleguru
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Bond is a white guy
Not necessarily.
He is a British agent.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:59 pm to genro
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Casting a white American would be way more controversial.
This is the truth.
And to kind of bring it full circle in this thread, I'm surprised there isn't more controversy around "Selma" with regard to the actor playing MLK being a Brit. Intriguing, to say the least.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:05 pm to TbirdSpur2010
There was no mention of him being Scottish originally. When Connery proved himself to be the quintessential Bond, Fleming added a Scottish back story. Later, when English non-Scottish actors replaced Connery, that mythos faded away.
But let's get mad about the black guy
But let's get mad about the black guy
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:17 pm to genro
Playing a fictional character at that 
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Bond should be a perfect mix of suave and badass. This is why Connery is the best Bond. Craig was too badass, not enough suave. Brosnan and Dalton were too suave, not enough badass. Moore was just a clown. Elba may be the best since Connery.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:35 pm to genro
Imma have to disagree, but only because I'm a huge fan of Craig's acting.
Then again I prefer my Bond to lean towards the badass side of the scale more than the suave.
Then again I prefer my Bond to lean towards the badass side of the scale more than the suave.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:38 pm to TbirdSpur2010
So... The black guy might be too cool for you? 
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:43 pm to genro
He might be....now wouldn't that be some shite?
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