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Posted on 3/19/20 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47316 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 1:47 pm to
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I’m going to throw out a big about chloroquine being a treatment for COVID-19 until research from reputable institutions in the West are quoted. Nigeria and China? Come on, guys.

Peer reviewed by the French
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:39 pm to
Calm down, ya loon.

We aren't going to be like italy because we are taking precautions.

Italy isn't close to getting out of this mess.

Also, this shite is serious, and due to the way this thing works we are going to see things deteriorate in the U.S over the next few days. We keep holding strong and being smart and we'll be on the road to recovery before we know it.

Loons like you better not mess it up.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19881 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 2:42 pm to
144,884
Currently Infected Patients

137,699 (95%)
in Mild Condition

7,185 (5%)
Serious or Critical

Somehow I think we will make it. Those are global numbers.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 3:24 pm to
I don’t understand your reasoning. When do you think draconian actions should be taken to mitigate a public health emergency? It’s easy to criticize what others are doing. What do you think should be done?
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 3:33 pm to
Look at where those numbers are coming from.
We have not hit the critical point in the U.S. yet
Most other countries are not as close to as far along as we are.

This thing hasn't fully hit us yet. If it had we'd be in Italy's situation.

That's the whole point of these measures we are taking... they are a preemptive strike to avoid winding up like Italy or, to a lesser extent, China.

Italy will not be back to normal in a long, long time.
South Korea is about to get basketball leagues back.

I know it's hard for some human brains to think weeks and, god forbid, months into the future but even the temporary hit to our economy is for its own long-term good.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19881 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:17 pm to
What do you think Italy's situation is?

Hint: 2,200 critical with pneumonia. 33,000 active cases.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19881 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 7:18 pm to
From volnation.com
Headline:
Italians over 80 'will be left to die' as country overwhelmed by coronavirus

1st paragraph
Coronavirus victims in Italy will be denied access to intensive care if they are aged 80 or more or in poor health should pressure on beds increase, a document prepared by a crisis management unit in Turin proposes.

Some patients denied intensive care will in effect be left to die, doctors fear
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What that doesn't mention is that isnt reality. It's from a hypothetical paper written as protocols in a worst case situation that hasnt happened. It's triage guidance that is nowhere near happening. Currently Italy has 2,200 cases requiring intensive care because of pneumonia from the Cov 19 virus. 2,200 cases nation wide doesn't mean Papa is going to be left to die so they can save a person more likely to make it. That's just absurd. But if you just read or skimmed the widely distributed article you might actually believe folks are having to kill their parents to attempt to save their kid.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
19056 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 8:40 pm to
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I’m going to throw out a big about chloroquine being a treatment for COVID-19
It's being tested in France right now and doctors in the US aren't waiting.

US physicians don't appear to be waiting for data either. Prescriptions for chloroquine have surged, according to recent tracking data from IQVIA cited by Raymond James. For the weeks of February 21, February 28, and March 6, weekly prescriptions grew from 531 to 957 to 1,290.

Doctors in the US have broad authority to prescribe approved medications for so-called off-label uses, or conditions that the drug isn't approved to treat.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 3/19/20 at 9:46 pm to
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Prescriptions for chloroquine have surged, according to recent tracking data from IQVIA cited by Raymond James. For the weeks of February 21, February 28, and March 6, weekly prescriptions grew from 531 to 957 to 1,290.


I’m certainly not against the use of anything that might have an effect for people who are near death. My concern is that people will think chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are cures for COVID-19, even when the research itself offers a clear disclaimer: Results show an improvement in critically ill patients who are in the last phase of the infection, but there is no evidence that the compounds prevent or cure the virus.

The compound kills the virus in the fluid that builds up in the lungs, giving the body some time to fortify the lungs. In the 6 patients who were part of the example in France, all benefitted from using the compound.

People should not rush to use either of the medicines to prevent getting the virus or to mitigate the virus after they contract it. Side effects are strong and could do more damage than the virus.

Of course, you and I know that they will and that there are doctors and pharmaceutical companies that support them doing so. Even in a world wide pandemic, almighty profit rules the day.
This post was edited on 3/19/20 at 9:47 pm
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