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re: Do you think God controls the weather?
Posted on 5/24/15 at 9:25 pm to rbWarEagle
Posted on 5/24/15 at 9:25 pm to rbWarEagle
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-the Christian
You came out swinging in the thread (which is your M.O). Don't start none, won't be none. I can have as pleasant a conversation as you wish. If you start from the ridiculous proposition that this is an easy and axiomatic discussion, you won't be taken seriously. If you start from a ridiculous proposition and add in some insults, you'll get them back.
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Posted on 5/24/15 at 9:54 pm to the808bass
The parable of the sower comes to mind
Posted on 5/24/15 at 10:11 pm to Old Sarge
Hebrews 6:1-8 is a favorite of mine.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 10:49 pm to the808bass
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You have the attention span of Boo Radley
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You came out swinging in the thread (which is your M.O). Don't start none, won't be none.
You can't even help yourself. The original post of mine you responded to is where I referred to the answer to "does god control the weather" as a basic exercise in logic. Then, I said:
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Alright, let me back up. I would like to rephrase what I said about a basic exercise in logic, as that was a bit of a jab towards what I view to be nonsense.
Yet you continue to be a little twat. I really didn't want to go down the name-calling route, but you insist. I'll respond to the rest of your drivel in a moment.
Posted on 5/24/15 at 10:55 pm to the808bass
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You've now tackled the problem of pain, the problem of miracles and the inspiration of Christian scripture in 3 pages of your "simple" response.
To be clear, I backed off on that statement because, as I said, it was a jab.
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It's not odd to think it's a strong argument when you actually see it worked out time and again in real life rather than in the mental masturbations of an atheist.
You either don't understand or are simply choosing not to. I explained why saying "god did it" would take away from the true human emotion in the situation. The fact that you disagree (because of, I'm assuming, anecdotal reasons) does not mean you are correct.
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So, to be clear, you're asserting the presence of death is a convincing argument against the existence of God?
No, I'm asserting that the presence of meaningless and horrible deaths due to weather/natural disasters (2004 Tsunami, let's say) is a convincing argument against the existence of a loving god who can intervene.
This post was edited on 5/24/15 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 5/24/15 at 10:58 pm to Old Sarge
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The parable of the sower comes to mind
Interesting. The anterior insular cortex comes to mind for me.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 8:31 am to rbWarEagle
anterior insular cortex, you don't believe people benefit from hope? That to mourn and grieve in a pit of hopeless despair is more palatable than to mourn and grieve with a sense of hope? I have a hard time believing that you believe what you are typing.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:44 am to Stonehog
I'm convinced elderly black women control the weather.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:46 am to Roger Klarvin
For all we know, God is an elderly black woman. People are convinced he's a white guy for some reason.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 9:56 am to Stonehog
Wrong,
He looks like Morgan Freeman
He looks like Morgan Freeman
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:22 am to rbWarEagle
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You either don't understand or are simply choosing not to. I explained why saying "god did it" would take away from the true human emotion in the situation. The fact that you disagree (because of, I'm assuming, anecdotal reasons) does not mean you are correct.
But you're equating "your" theory to some sort of scientific basis while pretending my assertion is "just" anecdotal evidence. Know what lots of anecdotes gathered together is? Data.
My friend, George, started a non-profit to work in a small town in Guatemala a few years back. And in those interim years, the non-profit has built over 20 homes for widows, started a vocational school, refurbished and supplied a special-needs school and updated and upgraded a local school. Does George have a better idea of the effects of a Christian worldview on the attitude towards others' plight than Sam Harris? He does. And he serves because of it. If I told you the name of George's organization, you would have never heard of it. Because it's one of thousands and thousands of similar organizations.
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No, I'm asserting that the presence of meaningless and horrible deaths
Ok. Let's assume God intervenes in these catastrophes and doesn't allow them to happen. What's the cutoff for you? Can 3 people die in a traffic accident? Can 10 people die of hemmorhagic fever? Where does God need to intervene and where can he stop to keep you happy about the situation?
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:23 am to Old Sarge
Everybody knows that 
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:33 am to Old Sarge
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He looks like Morgan Freeman
So, elderly black woman.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:33 am to TbirdSpur2010
You're both wrong..
Morgan Freeman looks like God. God doesn't look like Morgan Freeman.
Morgan Freeman looks like God. God doesn't look like Morgan Freeman.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:36 am to Hardy_Har
Are we forgetting George Burns?
Posted on 5/25/15 at 10:58 am to Hardy_Har
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Morgan Freeman looks like God. God doesn't look like Morgan Freeman.
Posted on 5/25/15 at 11:01 am to TbirdSpur2010
This is what God looks like
Posted on 5/25/15 at 11:04 am to Agforlife
Posted on 5/25/15 at 11:09 am to Agforlife
They're about to have sex right?
Posted on 5/25/15 at 11:26 am to Old Sarge
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anterior insular cortex, you don't believe people benefit from hope?
Well, some people do. Some people are highly resilient, some people aren't. Even that boils down to neurophysiology, though.
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That to mourn and grieve in a pit of hopeless despair is more palatable than to mourn and grieve with a sense of hope?
Well, this is quite the dramatic scenario you set up. I have hope in different things, though. I have hope in love, family, friends, good people, technological progress, etc. That doesn't leave me in a hopeless pit of despair. Maybe it is harder to get over something for some people when they don't have religion to fall back on. That doesn't validate the religion, though. Further, I haven't ruled out the idea of "god". Just the idea that we know anything about said "god" or that god intervenes in our lives.
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