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re: Am I the only one pulling for the Night King?

Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:06 am to
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:06 am to
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Who's your favorite character been on the show?

Nothing to do with our current debate, btw. I was just wondering. Aggiebelle asked me the other day and I didn't have an immediate answer.


Damn, that's actually a really tough one because at this point so many characters have had such amazing archs, even Sansa has somehow ended up a respectable character that I like. Maybe Tormund or Bronn are my favorite that are still alive, but I'm honestly not sure.

But of characters that have died, I was #TeamRobb all the way.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:14 am to
Yeah I was a big Robb fan, though I was actually on Khaleesi's bandwagon early on (before the eggs hatched).

Tormund is hilarious.

Brienne has been incredible to watch.

Lady Mormont was a little fricking badass.

Can't NOT love Greyworm.

I mean, frick.....too many characters I love(d) for very different reasons.
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:24 am to
Speaking of Greyworm, I know most people thought he was going to die in the last episode, but I thought for sure after the conversation him and Missandei had about retiring to Naath together that he'd survive and somehow she was going to die and Greyworm would end up fulfilling his promise by bringing her body back to Naath and becoming the protector of the island along with the Unsullied (since in the show I guess the butterflies aren't poisonous to foreigners like they are in the books). That could still happen, but I had Missandei high on my " 100% fricked" list for episode 3.

Missandei is so fine though. For my money she's got the second best tits on the show behind only Roz the redheaded prostitute from Winterfell that Joffrey killed. Red titty witch is up there too, obviously.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:30 am to
We're going to have to agree to disagree about this. In the show, her pigheadedness is just an excuse to tell us how incredible she is because "she's not a normal girl". It got her into trouble with the Faceless Men but come on, is it really trouble? The only way I can be assuaged by this is if they actually work with Cersei to stop her.

She has the least impactful character flaws and suffers the least problems because of them.

Cersei has to walk naked in front of all of the people she lords over while being humiliated.

Jaime loses his fricking hand.

Hound can barely withstand fire and panics when he sees it/loses his control.

Jon is fricking killed for being an inept leader.

Dany is worthless in battle and only supported because she has dragons.

I could go on for days how fleshed out the other characters are. Arya "gets a little bloodthirsty and it gets her into 'trouble'". Sorry, not gonna fly. Nothing she has done has brought consequences upon her other than being blinded for not listening -- but as I said, when bad things do happen to her, it's only used as plot armor to further increase her glory.

Kidnapped? Save a legendary assassin and become his mentor.

Don't listen? Be blinded, but only so you can be an expert fighter in the dark against a trained assassin with more experience than you.

Get concussed? Run around like you're playing a third person video game because you're definitely not looking at where your enemies are.

Literally one of the worst main characters of the show where the only bad consequence that happened to her (with actual impact) was her family getting butchered (not being one of the victims of the butchery which is decidedly worse).
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:35 am to
Jaime is my favorite, having lost his hand and lover (even if it's a little gross) but honestly, I love Cersei. Her entire storyline has been a blast and has major ups and downs. Never liked Jon or the Hound, Lyanna.

Old Lady Tyrell was one of my favorite characters, and being honest for the villains: Ramsay Bolton was actually a pretty amazing villain who I liked.

Favorite of Favorites, it has to go to Jaime.
Posted by BoozeDawg
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:57 am to
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Similarly, when I say she's an expert at sex, I mean she's very casual and nonchalant in asking/demanding for something she's never had.

Because you know, that almost never ever fricking happens except in the wet dreams of neckbearded men where a girl does something like that.


This is where you lose me. We are talking about what is possibly the end of the world as she knows it. Not a lot of time for courting. Lets just get to it. (jesus i just typed courting)
Posted by BoozeDawg
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:02 am to
i will say Jaime went from most hated to loved. Gonna be bummed if he dies.

love Arya! honestly....for every reason you hate hahah

Bronn is the guy though!!
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:09 am to
It's just another thing she's good at with no experience is all I'm saying. Of course there's no time to think about it. However: There's no timidity, no hesitation, she's just a stone cold blooded killer in everything she does.

When was the last time she was actually vulnerable and it wasn't just to highlight how amazing she was?
Posted by BoozeDawg
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:24 am to
If you can take a life, taking some dick aint shite. hahah

I literally understand and i get everything youre saying. Also....dont care. hahaha Sometimes i just wanna see a badass
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:31 am to
The problem is that that isn't Game of Thrones.

Actions have consequences. Being very bold gets your coconut cracked (like Oberyn Martell vs. Gregor Clegane). Trying to take on a guy who kills a dragon with ease is an example of being stupidly confident.

Defending an entire portion of a parapet alone (whereas battle hardened professional soldiers get overrun rather easily) is another example of stupid confidence.

Game of Thrones is ANTI-TROPE. That means ANTI-BADASSES doing WHATEVER THEY WANT. The show used to have consequences, but the writers are basically buttfricking Martin who admits that he doesn't have time to watch Game of Thrones.

It's a different show from what it set out to for, and that's the reason so many people are upset.
Posted by BoozeDawg
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:51 am to
makes sense.

still dont care, duh haha

I do see what you are saying though
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 8:23 am to
I'm incredibly perplexed at how mad this show makes you. Goodness.

Yeah I'm sure Martin doesn't have time to watch Game of Thrones... he's too busy stuffing cannolis down his gullet.

I'm surprised you haven't had a problem with Tyrion. Who the hell likes Cersei and Ramsay Bolton, but NOT Bron? Are you ill?!
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Old Lady Tyrell




quote:

honestly, I love Cersei


She's diabolical and cast as the villain in the show, but I honestly see her as a very sympathetic character, too. She's suffered bereavement and loss, and in the context of her perspective, done what she felt she had to do to ensure her hold on what she believes is hers. Maybe she derives too much pleasure from it at times, but in this fricked up show universe, her most sordid actions aren't exactly without peer.

If this whole deal is about playing the game of thrones with the intention of winning, she's played her cards correctly.
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:25 am to
Also, talking about stupid frick Lyanna, here's a good representation I saw:

"I'm not sure if this has been mentioned anywhere already, but the reason I liked Lyanna Mormont in the first place was that she was a wise little child.

She was seen listening to her advisors, realising that she, as a child, needed to learn a lot from her elders. In contrast to Joffrey, Robin Arryn and the other child leaders, she seemed wise.

Standing up to Jon when he came back might have been brave but was it wise? Going out onto the field of battle when you're actually a little girl and possibly the last person of your house, is that wise??

She went from being a smart leader who knew her weaknesses (her youth and small stature) to an idiot child who wouldn't listen to reason.

Her death was lucky, it wasn't clever. She might be brave but in the end she wasn't clever or wise."

But yeah, she's a little badass. I never liked the stupid little count, but hey apparently she was right up the "correct GOT arc" alley.

frick outta here
Posted by BowlJackson
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:33 am to
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I'm incredibly perplexed at how mad this show makes you. Goodness


He's written like 5 full essays in the last couple pages on how much he hates Arya
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

She's diabolical and cast as the villain in the show, but I honestly see her as a very sympathetic character, too. She's suffered bereavement and loss, and in the context of her perspective, done what she felt she had to do to ensure her hold on what she believes is hers. Maybe she derives too much pleasure from it at times, but in this fricked up show universe, her most sordid actions aren't exactly without peer.

If this whole deal is about playing the game of thrones with the intention of winning, she's played her cards correctly.


I wouldn't even necessarily call her a villain myself (but understand for the roles of the show that she must be cast in that light) and agree with you: She has been doing what she needs to in order to survive.

She has also had to sacrifice her dignity and in many respects, her loved ones. At some degree I don't think she's heartless, but watching your children kind of get picked off one by one will make anyone shift their intentions.

I'm hoping she doesn't go down the mustache twirling evil to for the sake of being evil road in these last few episodes, but I also hope that she has a chance at redemption.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:18 pm to
I like characters with actual development and whose intentions aren't there for fluff.

Cersei goes through, probably, the most of any living character at the moment.

Loveless marriage, taboo love that ends abruptly, watching her children picked off one by one, shamed in front of the entire population she's lord over. Friendless, no family (now) and always willing to do what's necessary to come out on top.

Tyrion has a rough story, so I'll give you that one -- and while it's super indulgent how the writers have made him a hero several times over I'm okay with him doing it despite his limitations. He's also had quite a long, arduous character arc which makes for good television.

Even Ramsay, whose mother dies at a young age and who must always try to gain his father's approval despite being the son of a mistress. Dreadfort, for all of its horror, is at least interesting.

quote:

I'm incredibly perplexed at how mad this show makes you. Goodness.


A lot of people have been waiting for a decade.

"Winter Is Coming". If this is the true end of the Night King and not a trick, then it's extremely anticlimactic and anti-Game of Thrones.

All of the fantasy tropes of good guys with plot armor were nonexistent for the majority of the series.
Posted by BoozeDawg
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:32 pm to
off topic question


Where do you rank Peaky Blinders in terms of writing?
Posted by teamjackson
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:33 pm to
While I understand what you are saying, nevertheless, you're coming off as a guy who will never be happy.

Edit:

You sure Arya hasn't had development? You're complaining about her story enough... obviously she had development, just not the development that satisfied you. Dude she's been around since day 1. And she's developed into her own character.

"But how could she kill the Night King so easily!?!?!"

You keep claiming "that isn't GoT enough though"... when in reality it's exactly what Game of Thrones is.

You liked Lady Tyrell*? I bet her character would think fondly of Arya Stark... ya know, sneakily killing a king.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:48 pm to
To the Peaky Blinders question first, from BoozeDog: I haven't seen it yet but a lot of people are suggesting it.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 1:50 pm
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