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re: Am I the only one pulling for the Night King?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:29 am to BowlJackson
Posted on 5/17/19 at 2:29 am to BowlJackson
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I know they were offered at least 10 episodes for this seasonn, and I heard HBO offered to fund another 10 episode season after that but I'm not 100%
Apparently D&D decided years ago the story "should be about 73 hours or 73 episodes" and basically refused to budge from that. Assholes
Part of me thinks that they just got writer's fatigue. When you've been writing something for a long time, it can become bland and you just don't really have the inspiration for it like you once did. They just really wanted to go and do some other projects, and at some point you can't really blame them.
Doing a show for this long, same themes, different seasons, super high standards set early by the show and an author...I'm going to be pretty blunt: Seems pretty hard to work with and is kind of combative.
You can tell they had a falling out, and d&d having a huge project on the horizon (Star Wars) decided to mail it in.
However, I think they would be doing the entire world a service if they would have just turned the writing over to someone else. You don't get Star Wars in one year, or even six months, that's a super long process so they've known for a while.
GoT literally prints money and they might have just murdered the franchise, unless Season 8 is literally redone -- and I mean like head to toe.
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:10 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Honestly I'm just glad it's coming to an end.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:44 am to BowlJackson
You know HBO was very disappointed. They’re expecting to lose 35% of their subscribers when this show ends.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:57 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If D&D didn’t wanna commit to see things through in a reasonable way, they should have jumped ship after season 6 and let someone else finish the last 2-4 seasons out. Instead they had to tank themselves out of the job but the worst writing decisions ever and the most moronic after the episode excuses and armchair psychology known to man.
Should we have really expected much different though after XMen Origins? They skated by on GRRM adaptations and him writing an episode here and there.
Should we have really expected much different though after XMen Origins? They skated by on GRRM adaptations and him writing an episode here and there.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 12:26 pm to Athos
It's rough because in the end I am empathetic, they thought they could do it and when you're making that much money and you've been doing it for so long it's really goddamn hard to say: I think we need to go look at other opportunities, someone else needs to take over.
However, people won't forget this easily and the next Star Wars trilogy just hired the most hated writers of our time outside of Rian Johnson (who also hilariously is a writer for Star Wars).
Those "the making of" episodes after the show are rough, too. Maybe the worst part of it all because you can tell they didn't really have great excuses/ideas at hand to explain some of the scenes.
However, people won't forget this easily and the next Star Wars trilogy just hired the most hated writers of our time outside of Rian Johnson (who also hilariously is a writer for Star Wars).
Those "the making of" episodes after the show are rough, too. Maybe the worst part of it all because you can tell they didn't really have great excuses/ideas at hand to explain some of the scenes.
Posted on 5/18/19 at 9:32 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Predictions for who dies tomorrow? I'd make some but, I read the spoilers so it'd be cheating
Posted on 5/18/19 at 10:23 am to thatguy45
I have to work late tomorrow so ill miss it. Bad part is im not even kinda bummed and that sucks
Posted on 5/18/19 at 11:27 pm to BoozeDawg
I've felt like that since the end of Episode 3, and I know we get pretty caustic on here about this subject because I've been pretty opposed to it since then but:
Man, you could see there were some serious problems, but not this egregious. Someone else pointed out that they expect to lose 35% of their subscribers after this, but man they're going to really feel it when people don't give anyone a chance with the spinoffs.
They might literally be better off going with other writers and redoing the season if the actors are okay with it. This will not happen ever, for any reason, in any fashion, but if I was HBO I'd say:
Give it a chance. It shows people that they're dedicated to giving us the best product available and that they wish to make amends.
At this point though, this is just a dream that book Bran had and said to himself: Wow, that would be terrible.
Man, you could see there were some serious problems, but not this egregious. Someone else pointed out that they expect to lose 35% of their subscribers after this, but man they're going to really feel it when people don't give anyone a chance with the spinoffs.
They might literally be better off going with other writers and redoing the season if the actors are okay with it. This will not happen ever, for any reason, in any fashion, but if I was HBO I'd say:
Give it a chance. It shows people that they're dedicated to giving us the best product available and that they wish to make amends.
At this point though, this is just a dream that book Bran had and said to himself: Wow, that would be terrible.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:10 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Someone else pointed out that they expect to lose 35% of their subscribers after this, but man they're going to really feel it when people don't give anyone a chance with the spinoffs.
That's probably not that far off from normal tho. That's what I've done for the last 4 season's, only keep a subscription for the duration of the seasons and immediately cancel when it's done. Most people I know do the same thing. I take full advantage of my subscription during that time though, enjoying all the good movies they have and trying to fit in rewatches of The Wire or The Soprano's or whatever.
I'll 100% give the spinoffs a chance though, if only because I enjoy the history and more so much. The animated videos on YouTube with the actual actors doing the narration are awesome.
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They might literally be better off going with other writers and redoing the season if the actors are okay with it. This will not happen ever, for any reason, in any fashion, but if I was HBO I'd say:
I actually signed a petition on change.org Friday night to remake season 8 that was almost up to a million signatures
But you're right, it'll never happen because HBO doesn't have any real incentive to do that
Posted on 5/19/19 at 8:21 am to BowlJackson
I look forward to the season 8 movie adaptation X amount of years from now
(Which will be even worse somehow)
(Which will be even worse somehow)
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 8:21 am
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:54 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Im with you. You spent 10 years slow playing storylines and building up twist and turns to all of a sudden throw everything in the hyper drive and burn through everything youve built. I cant remember something i was so hyped to watch be this trash or rushed.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:16 pm to BowlJackson
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I'll 100% give the spinoffs a chance though, if only because I enjoy the history and more so much. The animated videos on YouTube with the actual actors doing the narration are awesome.
I truly think the damage will come from the spinoffs. Of course, there will be people like you and I who just want GoT content no matter what, but I can already see people saying they're really uninterested in certain plot lines. Anything to do with the Night King is probably killed until Martin produces a book or is slated to actually work (full time) on the show.
The others, I think will be forgiven to some extent as long as d&d are no where near production. I still can't believe that Disney Star Wars has somehow managed to get the three most hated contemporary show writers/runners.
Although the good news is that I've heard the source material is completely done for the Star Wars movies, so d&d will be doing what they do best: adapting other people's material.
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I actually signed a petition on change.org Friday night to remake season 8 that was almost up to a million signatures
But you're right, it'll never happen because HBO doesn't have any real incentive to do that
Forbes just wrote an article and HBO wasn't happy with their decision whatsoever. Everybody was dedicated to making this show go on for a very long time. Even most of the actors -- none of them really have a ton of things coming up outside of Heady who, apparently wasn't going to get much to do these last seasons lol.
However, if HBO was willing to extend the series for a very long time, there is an infinitesimal chance, the smallest you can imagine that they might at least test the waters to see where the actors and everyone else is with d&d gone. It's so small that it's not even worth getting anyone's hopes up.
I'm just saying: If GoT is as lucrative as HBO makes it out to be and they were willing to dedicate the next 16 years to the show, there's a small chance that they'll reboot if it gets enough attention (it's literally two or three months of extra subscriptions for several months).
Posted on 5/19/19 at 1:44 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Then again. Why didn’t they just fire D&D. Wasn’t like they would have lost much. I’m sure they had other writers working in the show to some extent.
HBO seems to have backed themselves into a corner with these bozos who were jumping ship for SW anyway.
Boggles the mind they needed two years for this godawful season.
HBO seems to have backed themselves into a corner with these bozos who were jumping ship for SW anyway.
Boggles the mind they needed two years for this godawful season.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 2:17 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Although the good news is that I've heard the source material is completely done for the Star Wars movies, so d&d will be doing what they do best: adapting other people's material.
Assuming they're doing KOTOR, they've got two games and multiple books to adapt. Assuming they retain their ability to adapt stuff, I might actually go see their films, and last sw movie I saw at the theater was 7
If they do it right, the hate will vanish
Posted on 5/19/19 at 3:31 pm to Athos
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Then again. Why didn’t they just fire D&D. Wasn’t like they would have lost much. I’m sure they had other writers working in the show to some extent.
HBO seems to have backed themselves into a corner with these bozos who were jumping ship for SW anyway.
Boggles the mind they needed two years for this godawful season.
Could have been anything from contracts to "what was comfortable". Although to be honest, with how good GoT was and how everyone was pretty happy (people generally disliked Season 7 but whatever, I thought it was at least 'okay') I don't think anyone at HBO could have predicted that Season 8 would be this terrible.
You think you have professionals who want to leave their mark on one of the (if not THE) greatest shows of all time and then you realize: Wow, these guys put zero thought into this and really just want to bail.
This is akin to getting a two weeks notice from an employee who has been an exemplary worker who suddenly takes the last week off for 'sickness'. You expect the employee to finish up his job and leave with dignity, but suddenly he just stops giving a frick with no warning.
If I were Disney, even though they're so far ahead, I would be extremely careful and micromanage the frick out of these two. Especially if they seem like they have other jobs in the future.
This post was edited on 5/19/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 5/19/19 at 5:31 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You’d think they’d have read the scripts before proceeding. Must have forgotten the quality control. Anyone reasonable with the foresight about their GoT prequels would have sent them back for rewrites.
Problem, however, was when they copped to D&Ds shortened season plans. It’d have taken a Herculean effort to tie th8ngs competently with so little time.
And honestly. The states goal of dropping episode count to devote expenses to big set pieces is lame. These ending “wars” have been disappointing.
Problem, however, was when they copped to D&Ds shortened season plans. It’d have taken a Herculean effort to tie th8ngs competently with so little time.
And honestly. The states goal of dropping episode count to devote expenses to big set pieces is lame. These ending “wars” have been disappointing.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:04 pm to PorkDawg
Lmao.
This is literally the worst ending to a cult followed tv show in the history of ever.
They’ve out done Lost.
This is literally the worst ending to a cult followed tv show in the history of ever.
They’ve out done Lost.
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:38 pm to Athos
I wouldn't say it's worse than other episodes of the season.
I'm still processing. Were the leaks correct?
Gotta watch again... best text I got all night: "Well it's over.."
I'm still processing. Were the leaks correct?
Gotta watch again... best text I got all night: "Well it's over.."
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:42 pm to teamjackson
The leaks were correct. It's delivered the melts. I'm not too mad about the ending but a lot are so 
Posted on 5/19/19 at 9:55 pm to thatguy45
That ending really fricking sucked. I wish I would have read the leaks and pretended the Night King killed everyone.
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