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re: 2016 Presidential Election: Trump vs Clinton

Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by Tillman
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Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:09 pm to
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So you're supporting a liberal.


or a non-ideologue who just doesn't care much about certain issues.

i don't see why Putin would want anybody but a Democrat inn power given what he can get away with under Democrats. it seems like bringing up Putin backfires on you big league.

liberals have never had a problem with Russia until this election cycle when it was rumored maybe Russia was the one who hacked the DNC emails that embarrassed Hillary. she's just trying to use Russia as a distraction from those emails. it is so obvious

all trump did regarding Putin is accept his compliment in a joking way. and say 'wouldn't it be nice if we could get along with Putin'. tthat is not evidence he is in cahoots with Putin on shady stuff. lol
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 9:13 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:12 pm to
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Well, Trump wants us to believe he is what he tells us he is, for one thing. Not releasing his tax returns makes him suspicious, in my opinion.


Not any worse than Hillary not releasing her emails. I find outrage over this to be disingenuous. Hillary defenders say, "that's just how politics work", but demand complete transparency from Trump? Ridiculous double standard and total rationalization. You're allowed to be mad about Trump not releasing his tax returns, but if it's genuine outrage, it should rest squarely behind Hilldog and her behavior as Secretary of State.

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Next, he's politically dumb. He has no interest in or talent for compromise.


I mean you might not be wrong about the politically dumb thing, but he wrote an entire book on compromise. So I find that to be a fabricated narrative. He's clearly doing negotiation tactics he's flatly laid out in the past. He's already retreated from the blanket Muslim ban to a ban of people from the area, and is probably going to retreat further to extreme vetting. But what he did in the process was completely destroy the idea of taking in more refugees like Hilldog wants. He took the conversation completely out of the negotiating arena of the Democrats. Which is a brilliant strategy.


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His tantrums make it clear he would be an awful statesman.


I agree. I also think it's a strong dose of laziness. He didn't prepare for the debates at all. He really thinks he can wing shite. That's an incredibly unfavorable trait for a statesman.

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His life of privilege and "winning all the time" hasn't prepared him for a job where he will be denied what he wants sometimes.


Hyperbole.

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Worst, for me, is his cozy relationship with Vladimir Putin.


This to me is 100% straight up fabrication. What relationship? They have no relationship. Hilldog has BRAGGED about her ACTUAL coziness with Putin.

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I was raised to hate the Soviet Union and Russia was its core. I don't trust Putin any more than I did any of the Soviet leaders.


And Trump changes that how exactly? What has he said or done that Hilldog hasn't?
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:13 pm to
trump destroyed hillary in that last debate. pretty good if he was winging it. lol
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:15 pm to
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or a non-ideologue who just doesn't care much about certain issues.


You have labeled many conservatives on this site as liberals because they have different feelings about some issues than you. Now you're giving Trump a pass because he "doesn't care much about certain issues." Twoface much?

I'm bailing tonight so I can watch NCIS: New Orleans. Don't you dare die in your sleep from old age, okay? Talk to you tomorrow.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:16 pm to
no, most of them are liberals though. many liberals like to pretend to be non-ideological. it is a debate strategy

i've not given trump a pass on anything. i'm hopeful he's not going to do liberal things. he's not on here saying a bunch of liberal things and then denying he's a liberal.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 9:18 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:17 pm to
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trump destroyed hillary in that last debate. pretty good if he was winging it. lol




He did better, and had a great moment about putting her in jail, but I'd put it at a tie at best.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:18 pm to
of course you would b/c u voting for the hag. lol

ur debate strategy is to say they are both bad but focus on Trump moore. i get wut u are doing.

i don't think she won the first debate. he pointed out she was the original birther and that was her main attack line on him. it completely undermined her. she said he's a racist b/c he's a birther but she's the original Obama birther. lol she also didn't defend her past comment about black youths being 'super predators'.

a lot of peole forget that Obama accused Bill Clinton of racism in 2008 when Billy compared Obama to Jesse Jackson.

Moochelle Obama said hag Hillary was not qualified to be prizzy b/c Hill couldn't even run her own house, referring to fact her husband was doinking other women.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 9:24 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:26 pm to
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of course you would b/c u voting for the hag. lol


I am absolutely never voting for Hillary. She's a corrupt criminal. She has never met a foreign donor she wouldn't take money from. She has never met an opportunity to seize and consolidate power she would not take. This is a 3:26 clip from Christopher Hitchens I really like that sums up Hilldog and how I feel about her.

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ur debate strategy is to say they are both bad but focus on Trump moore. i get wut u are doing.


I have a MAGA hat. I do not like Hillary. I will absolutely criticize Trump when I feel he deserves to be criticized.

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i don't think she won the first debate.


I do. He was on the defensive the majority of the time bringing up horrible defenses and going off on tangents he didn't need to.

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he pointed out she was the original birther and that was her main attack line on him.


And she absolutely was the original birther. Morning Joe and Mika spit out the truth.

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it completely undermined her.


He didn't spin it well enough and he was defensive on like 5 other things. Mentioning Rosie O'Donnell was a low point.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:28 pm to
ok all the online polls except the CNN poll which was doing something shady had trump winning the first debate. he did miss a few obvious jabs but he def. did not lose it. the main thing he wanted to do in the first one was come out and be calm , to counter her dumb talking poitns about how he is crazy.

he's only talking about Rosie b/c the liberal moderators keep dragging up that silly stuff from years ago. they never provide any context for his comments about Rosie, she attacked him. few people like Rosie anyway, she's a mean person.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 9:33 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:39 pm to
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ok all the online polls except the CNN poll which was doing something shady had trump winning the first debate. he did miss a few obvious jabs but he def. did not lose it. the main thing he wanted to do in the first one was come out and be calm , to counter her dumb talking poitns about how he is crazy.


I disagree. He did a good job countering her attacks about how he shouldn't have a nuke or some other crazy line, which might have been his main objective, but he failed in other areas.

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he's only talking about Rosie b/c the liberal moderators keep dragging up that silly stuff from years ago. they never provide any context for his comments about Rosie, she attacked him. few people like Rosie anyway, she's a mean person.


I could give frick all about Rosie O'Donnell. Aside from that one episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, she's been forgettable in everything I've ever seen. He should have never mentioned her by name and found a better way to deflect. He deflected poorly all night in the first debate. When in to tangents about being under-leveraged, which I totally agree with him on, given how cheap debt is right now, he threw out a low figure for how much debt financing he has for a billion dollar business, but he rambled on and on, and the amount of Americans that understand the difference between debt financing and equity financing, or would understand what constitutes a healthy mix is hilariously low. And he wasted valuable time over and over doing shite like that.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37846 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:49 pm to
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i ask you for evidence and you never presented any. i learned in school to always back up my assertions.



Tillman, still waiting for you to back up your assertions. Need some entertainment to see you try to stretch Armstrong some bullshite that isn't the national enquirer

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pretty obvious Obama hates white people

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i wonder if fact Hillary is a lesbian will hurt her in the election.

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it is going to be so great if hillary's past hookers come forward with photos. lol and digusting

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96 percent of journalists have donated to Hillary.

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she no doubt used tax revenue to pay for her hookers and abortions too.

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obama scolded a reporter for asking a question today at his press conference





Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:26 pm to
he's not wasting time, the liberal moderators trying to sink him are. once he started talking about how hilly enable her sexual predator husband, they are ready to move on to the issues.

i don't see wut Hillary won on, unless the tax return thing is compelling to you. she tries to make him out as the devil for using the tax code to legally avoid paying as much tax as possible, like basically every American including HIllary does.

i think hillary loses everytime she's in public b/c she's not likeable. that is why she doesn't even campaign, along with fact she's deathly ill and can hardly walk.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:33 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:27 pm to
u can go to Drudge Report for links to articles about most of those posts that i made.

any person who sat in racist Jeramiah Wright's church for 20 years is a racist too. even Hillary said she wouldn't be in that church back in 2008.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:29 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:41 pm to
Article up at Drudge now. lol

Hillary Bus Dumps shite in Street...

HAZMAT Called...


let's make America great again
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37846 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:11 pm to
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can go to Drudge Report for links to articles about most of those posts that i made.



If it is so easy, you can bring those links to credible sources here. Tillman coming in hot with quality discussion and supporting evidence.

Let me know when you are give up Tillman. Either you need to up your troll game or you need to upgrade your shitty arguments. They aren't even fun to laugh at now
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 11:18 pm
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:21 am to
0k alabama blue collar liberal. i don't need ur validation homey. get back to complaining about the min. wage being too law for u to make a living lol
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37846 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:28 am to
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0k alabama blue collar liberal. i don't need ur validation homey.


Giving up already? Quitters can't "Make America Great Again" Tillman. If you were a true conservative, you'd know that.


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get back to complaining about the min. wage being too law


Resorting to false accusations and assertions you can't back up? I thought they taught you better in school Tillman

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for u to make a living lol


You said you are a mechanical engineer? So you are just okay financially and making these statements?
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 8:32 am
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:38 am to
BREAKING

another Bill Clinton accuser has come forward for first time, says Slick groped her twice and then came to her apartment.

Exclusive video interview with new Clinton accuser

“I almost came out during the Monica Lewinsky and Kathleen Willey situation. I watched that unfold a little bit. I was very prepared to go forward then and talk about it. And I watched the way the Clintons and Hillary slandered those women. Harassed them. Did unthinkable things to them. And I just did not want to be part of that. I had very small children at the time. I had a job in pharmaceuticals. It was a very conservative situation. I didn’t want to do anything to bring harm to my career. And my family.

“It was very scary watching all of that. And I’ve shared that with some of the other women that have been victims. I just didn’t want to go through that at the time. It was more about my kids than anything.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 8:44 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37846 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:41 am to
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BREAKING



Not as bad as you are breaking my heart with your failure to follow through. What would your parents and teachers think of you? Not supporting your assertions and refusing the call to "Make America Great Again"


You clearly are a liberal and USCe Gamecock fan in disguise. Only lyin' dyin' Hillary can identify with the shameful behavior you are exhibiting.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 8:43 am
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12691 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:44 am to
u are callow, blue collar lib democrat in alabama
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 8:45 am
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