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re: Why can't we fire Kim Anderson now?
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:30 am to Sleeping Tiger
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:30 am to Sleeping Tiger
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It would take a really really embarrassing act of incompetence to fire him mid-season.
KA has been an embarrassment since he arrived.
End the suffering now.
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Too many reasons to let this play out till the end.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 12:32 pm
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 9:41 am to SemperFi
Fire him now only if you can immediately replace him with a
coach that brings major moxie.
Since that guy doesn't exist/isn't available at the moment it makes no sense to fire him.
They should be working on a short list and be ready as soon as coach hiring season kicks in.
This has to be the worst era of MU roundball ever.
coach that brings major moxie.
Since that guy doesn't exist/isn't available at the moment it makes no sense to fire him.
They should be working on a short list and be ready as soon as coach hiring season kicks in.
This has to be the worst era of MU roundball ever.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:23 pm to Ridgewalker
That's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter if it "makes no sense". This motherfricker has cratered Mizzou basketball to an all time low. Coaches get fired midseason for sucking all the time. It's not an unprecedented move.
He's gone anyway. Show your fans that this shite will not be tolerated.
Every minute he is the HC is just another minute wasted. He sucks. Look at the "basketball" his teams play. Stupid, sloppy, low energy, no rhythm. They suck, he sucks. Get him the frick out of here!
He's gone anyway. Show your fans that this shite will not be tolerated.
Every minute he is the HC is just another minute wasted. He sucks. Look at the "basketball" his teams play. Stupid, sloppy, low energy, no rhythm. They suck, he sucks. Get him the frick out of here!
Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:13 pm to SemperFi
Some things are more complicated than -- this is for fighting this is for fun.
The marines are known for being a bright bunch of deep-critical thinkers, somewhat surprising you're not seeing why it makes sense to be patient here.
The marines are known for being a bright bunch of deep-critical thinkers, somewhat surprising you're not seeing why it makes sense to be patient here.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:19 pm to JesusQuintana
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This motherfricker has cratered Mizzou basketball to an all time low.
Has he?
That's about as foolish as blaming the national debt on the current president -- which a lot of people are dumb enough to do.
There were some things that led to his hiring that were a little abnormal. Probably more than a few things we as fans don't know about too.
No one can argue that he hasn't cleaned up some things. I would bet nobody feels like there's an arrest around the corner -- it did feel like that for awhile. What's next? Who's gonna rape somebody, or get caught with this, or do that. That sea has been calmed.
You remove the guy right now, just before his first go at conference play with his own roster, leaving a locker room of guys he made relationships with and you risk the one thing he accomplished being unraveled.
You do this the right way. At the end of the year, or near the very end.
Grow up. We're not there yet. Don't act like an 8 year old in the backseat on a road trip.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:57 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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You remove the guy right now, just before his first go at conference play with his own roster
This is nonsense. He recruited D'Angelo Allen and Tramaine. He recruited all the Sophomores. He recruited everyone on last year's roster with the exception of Rosburg and one other non-factor. He's been here three years.
Mike Anderson hasn't lost a game in Fayetteville in the non-conference to an unranked team. We've lost to Eastern Illinois and North Carolina Central at home in the last 5 games.
The intangibles you keep citing could be accomplished by hiring a couple of social workers to help out with the team. That's not the coach's primary or secondary job. We don't hire professors at Mizzou to get students to not get arrested and we don't hire coaches for that purpose either.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:38 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Has he?
Kim's winning % at MU is 32.9.
Bob Vanatta's was 34.4.
It doesn't get any lower than that.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:07 pm to Ridgewalker
I agree with ridge.
He deserves to go now, but you have to do it in a way that's best for getting a new hire and the program. Just because we pissed is not a gud plan.
He deserves to go now, but you have to do it in a way that's best for getting a new hire and the program. Just because we pissed is not a gud plan.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:32 pm to navynuke
Fire KA before the Lipscomb game to start the new coach with a win
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:53 pm to the808bass
Odd to bring up Anderson.
KA is not a big time D1 coach. He shouldn't be running Mizzou. But he is.
Firing him right now doesn't make sense for multiple reasons.
The fire him now stuff is no different than people sitting at home watching the news and saying 'bomb em all'. It's not practical and not going to happen for many reasons.
The program left behind by Haith wasn't bad just because players were getting arrested. Administratively it was a mess. It was a toxic environment from top to bottom. It was not a desirable job. It will be more desirable at the end of this year than it was in 14.
KA is not a big time D1 coach. He shouldn't be running Mizzou. But he is.
Firing him right now doesn't make sense for multiple reasons.
The fire him now stuff is no different than people sitting at home watching the news and saying 'bomb em all'. It's not practical and not going to happen for many reasons.
The program left behind by Haith wasn't bad just because players were getting arrested. Administratively it was a mess. It was a toxic environment from top to bottom. It was not a desirable job. It will be more desirable at the end of this year than it was in 14.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 3:58 pm to navynuke
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Kim's winning % at MU is 32.9.
Bob Vanatta's was 34.4.
It doesn't get any lower than that.
I think the point of that was many people have contributed to this disaster.
If we really want to blame someone for Mizzou basketball it should be Mike Alden.
KA is not legit. We know that. But it's almost like blaming the customer service person on the phone for some error they didn't have a lot to do with.
He'll be gone soon enough. To isolate everything as if he came in here with a clean slate and not a uniquely restrictive situation is plain ignorance.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:07 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Lol..he's the HEAD COACH.
Customer service rep? Get a grip.
Crazy thing is, even the most ardent KA supporters believe he should be fired. Some still hold the nonsensical "not now" opinion.
It's not worth talking about anymore though. If losses to NCSU and EIU in your third year doesn't get you fired then no game left on the schedule will. We will, once again, finish last in the SEC and then he'll be fired the "right way"
Customer service rep? Get a grip.
Crazy thing is, even the most ardent KA supporters believe he should be fired. Some still hold the nonsensical "not now" opinion.
It's not worth talking about anymore though. If losses to NCSU and EIU in your third year doesn't get you fired then no game left on the schedule will. We will, once again, finish last in the SEC and then he'll be fired the "right way"
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:10 pm to JesusQuintana
Sleepy is just doing his contrarian thing.
Best to just ignore.
Best to just ignore.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:13 pm to JesusQuintana
The point is this situation was not all his fault. He took over in a deep hole. A toxic environment and an ncaa investigation.
If people are unwilling to recognize that, well.. that's on you.
He should be fired. Just not right now. Now does nothing besides pacify people like you, and that's not how an AD should make a decision. If this was all about internet fanland he would be fired already, but it's not. It's real life with more factors than 'I'm mad, fire him'.
If people are unwilling to recognize that, well.. that's on you.
He should be fired. Just not right now. Now does nothing besides pacify people like you, and that's not how an AD should make a decision. If this was all about internet fanland he would be fired already, but it's not. It's real life with more factors than 'I'm mad, fire him'.
This post was edited on 12/18/16 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:25 pm to Sleeping Tiger
Who gives a frick if it was all his fault or not?
For all of your talk about real jobs, you don't seem to understand how they work. He's ultimately responsible for the program. You don't get to play the not my fault card when you are in charge. About five years ago, I was hired to run a sales department for a company that the company viewed as underperforming. It didn't happen overnight, but eventually my department began to improve and it's to the point that we are performing at a level my bosses are happy with. If results slip, I'll be given a chance to turn it around likely but the leash won't be long and if I don't, I'll be replaced. This is how "real jobs" work when the outcomes are tangible and the rewards are result driven. He's been given time, and in that time he's proven beyond any doubt that he's a shitty coach.
He's shite. He sucks. He's authored the worst 3 year stretch in program history. He IS going to be fired. If you want to have some semantics based argument about when the right time to do it is, then be my guest.
For all of your talk about real jobs, you don't seem to understand how they work. He's ultimately responsible for the program. You don't get to play the not my fault card when you are in charge. About five years ago, I was hired to run a sales department for a company that the company viewed as underperforming. It didn't happen overnight, but eventually my department began to improve and it's to the point that we are performing at a level my bosses are happy with. If results slip, I'll be given a chance to turn it around likely but the leash won't be long and if I don't, I'll be replaced. This is how "real jobs" work when the outcomes are tangible and the rewards are result driven. He's been given time, and in that time he's proven beyond any doubt that he's a shitty coach.
He's shite. He sucks. He's authored the worst 3 year stretch in program history. He IS going to be fired. If you want to have some semantics based argument about when the right time to do it is, then be my guest.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:36 pm to JesusQuintana
I love the never ending social experiment of internet forums.
The AD, not KA was the reference point for how a real job works. The AD isn't going to react like fans on the internet. He has a real job to do. What you all do here is not real -- it's fanland. You can say fire him now, but the person who is in charge of that has to consider other things that you're not responsible for. It's easy to say fire him now from a keyboard. When it's your real job, you have to be more tactical.
So.. your sales job analogy was pointless because you missed the point of the comment.
The AD, not KA was the reference point for how a real job works. The AD isn't going to react like fans on the internet. He has a real job to do. What you all do here is not real -- it's fanland. You can say fire him now, but the person who is in charge of that has to consider other things that you're not responsible for. It's easy to say fire him now from a keyboard. When it's your real job, you have to be more tactical.
So.. your sales job analogy was pointless because you missed the point of the comment.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:00 pm to JesusQuintana
There actually is nothing to suggest he is going to be fired. Not a peep from anyone with any authority. He may not be fired at the end of the season. Then you guys can really lose what's left of your minds
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:18 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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you have to be more tactical
No, you really don't.
Would there be even one single person who would say to Sterk..."you shouldn't have fired him"???
Of course not. It's only the path of least resistance...maybe.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:34 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Has he?
Yes. It doesnt matter how many paragraphs you respond with either, he has bottomed out the program.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:59 pm to MIZ_COU
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He may not be fired at the end of the season.
There is less than a 1% chance he is not fired.
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