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Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:22 pm
After splitting the first two games of a must win series for each team to advance to Hoover, MU has busted open a 2-2 game in the 7th for an 8-2 lead. Zach Hanna launched one over center to take a 3 -2 lead. The sacks were juiced when two Srs went to work. Matt Berler hit one off the wall for a 2 run double. In what might be his last AB at Taylor Stadium Trey Harris drilled a letter high FB into the bullpen to extend the lead to 6 runs.
Nile Ball just struck out the last batter in a scoreless top of the 8th.
Nile Ball just struck out the last batter in a scoreless top of the 8th.
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:44 pm to navynuke
Double Play ends it. The Tigers are heading to Hoover and likely the NCAA Tournament.
Posted on 5/19/18 at 5:47 pm to navynuke
Posted on 5/19/18 at 6:41 pm to navynuke
I watched the replay of the last Indiana St. and first Tennessee game on SEC Network that both ended with walkoff wins. Fun games to watch.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:42 am to CRDNLSCHMCPSN11
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Fun games to watch.
That's the way the season has been. Beiser did an outstanding job of coaching around the loss of Misner. Navigating the underachievement by MDO and Sikkema was solid work as well. This team clearly doesn't have the talent the top 1/3 of the conference does but I think they are easily one of the top 64 teams in the country. If they clip SC on Tuesday, I think they are a lock for a regional.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:40 pm to navynuke
I love baseball. I would love to see Mizzou baseball succeed. But Bieser does absolutely need to increase the talent on the team or make more of what he has. Next year will be year 3. For the most part, will all be his guys.
I respect your opinion that Bieser did an OUTSTANDING job but personally, I think he's done just enough overall. Frankly, I think he's cost us more games than he's won us. The one that sticks out because it's fresh is bringing LaPlante out for another inning after he had already thrown over 110 pitches. First pitch...gone. Tigers lose. His approach when we're at the plate has also been questionable at times. He's done enough other good things to counter the bad, but I think it is far from OUTSTANDING.
As for MDO...I don't know that he underachieved. I think his numbers are better than any past season. He has underachieved if compared to the hype he came in with but has not underachieved when compared to what we have actually seen.
I think they have a great chance to beat SC and I think that beating them would go a long way to making a regional. Lock might be a strong word IMO but regardless, I agree, beat SC and put yourself in a good spot.
I respect your opinion that Bieser did an OUTSTANDING job but personally, I think he's done just enough overall. Frankly, I think he's cost us more games than he's won us. The one that sticks out because it's fresh is bringing LaPlante out for another inning after he had already thrown over 110 pitches. First pitch...gone. Tigers lose. His approach when we're at the plate has also been questionable at times. He's done enough other good things to counter the bad, but I think it is far from OUTSTANDING.
As for MDO...I don't know that he underachieved. I think his numbers are better than any past season. He has underachieved if compared to the hype he came in with but has not underachieved when compared to what we have actually seen.
I think they have a great chance to beat SC and I think that beating them would go a long way to making a regional. Lock might be a strong word IMO but regardless, I agree, beat SC and put yourself in a good spot.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:33 pm to reedus23
It was Plassmeyer, not LaPlant and it wasn't his first pitch of the inning. That being said which available reliever would you have burned in the 8th inning of a tie game facing the bottom of the order and a LH batter leading off and Toelken in the bag from the night before?
You talk about his use of the staff like he has several of known quantities as relievers when it's just Ball and Toelken. The rest are true FR or garbage hold overs that TJ brought in. You could add MDO to that list because he wasn't trusted to see any action the last 6 conference games of the year.
So yes, I think he did an OUTSTANDING job of guiding the least talented roster in the conference.
You talk about his use of the staff like he has several of known quantities as relievers when it's just Ball and Toelken. The rest are true FR or garbage hold overs that TJ brought in. You could add MDO to that list because he wasn't trusted to see any action the last 6 conference games of the year.
So yes, I think he did an OUTSTANDING job of guiding the least talented roster in the conference.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:58 pm to navynuke
Definitely LaPlante and definitely first pitch of the inning.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:40 am to Mizsioux
Definitely wrong.
LaPlante pitched the first 5 innings and Ball pitched the final 4 on Saturday when they won to clinch the series.
Plassmeyer pitched on Friday night when they lost. He came back out in the 8th to face the LH hitting catcher and struck him out swinging to start the inning. Chinea hit his home run on the 6th pitch of the inning.
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LaPlante pitched the first 5 innings and Ball pitched the final 4 on Saturday when they won to clinch the series.
Plassmeyer pitched on Friday night when they lost. He came back out in the 8th to face the LH hitting catcher and struck him out swinging to start the inning. Chinea hit his home run on the 6th pitch of the inning.
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This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 6:48 am
Posted on 5/21/18 at 7:52 am to navynuke
He’s obviously talking about the South Carolina game.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:15 am to Mizsioux
Fair enough.
Again the question remains: What RHP do you want out of the pen to face the best LH hitter in SC's lineup in the bottom of the 9th of a 0-0 game? Toelken threw 45 pitches on Friday in the win. Ball might have been available after throwing 13 pitches on Friday, but he isn't the guy you want facing Cortes. Who is your guy?
Again the question remains: What RHP do you want out of the pen to face the best LH hitter in SC's lineup in the bottom of the 9th of a 0-0 game? Toelken threw 45 pitches on Friday in the win. Ball might have been available after throwing 13 pitches on Friday, but he isn't the guy you want facing Cortes. Who is your guy?
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:25 am to navynuke
To your larger point though. I didn’t have a lot of complaints with keeping him in. If you snap off your curve balls right and that’s all you throw like LaPlant you can let those guys run a little longer. I think the loss of Misner this season (conference play) put my grades on Bieser on a curve. We put a lot of pressure on our pitchers especially sikkema. Instead of giving up a run on double play situations we are pulling the infielders in and living in life or death situations in the the 5th and 6 th which is a hard way to pitch. Personally I thought Sikkemma had a heck of a season. It’s hard to pitch Friday nights with zero run support. I think Missouri should be in. They’re not. All of a sudden people are trying to act like baseball is football and basketball and conference seasons are comparable. Mo State is apparently a lock and I think if they played in the sec they’d be worse than us this year. I think Bieser is the only good thing to come from Mac.
Posted on 5/21/18 at 10:37 am to navynuke
Bieser is doing a great job. They don't have many bats and lost their best one for most of the season and are still in play for a regional.
His record the first two years is better than what our talent level would suggest.
His next step will be to increase said talent level, but he's doing a great job so far.
His record the first two years is better than what our talent level would suggest.
His next step will be to increase said talent level, but he's doing a great job so far.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:09 am to navynuke
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It was Plassmeyer, not LaPlant and it wasn't his first pitch of the inning.
You may be talking about another instance of handling the pitcher. This is the one I was talking about. It was an 0-0 count on the first batter in the bottom of the 9th. LaPlante's 113th pitch. LINK
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That being said which available reliever would you have burned in the 8th inning of a tie game facing the bottom of the order and a LH batter leading off and Toelken in the bag from the night before?
You would have to point me to the game and I'd have to go look to see who pitched around it. Pferrer has done decent. MDO has some control issues but teams are only hitting .175 against him. I'm not saying you'd use those guys in that situation, but to suggest that you can never go to the bullpen because they're garbage...well that's kind of on the coach as well. Another instance that worked out for Bieser but is about as against the grain as it gets is pulling Toelken when he had like a 2-2 count on the batter. When you see a MLB manager do that, then I'll believe that is the best approach.
Like I said, we'll agree to disagree on how good of a job he's done. And yes, it has been a good job.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 12:38 am to reedus23
So it looks like we'll throw Sikemma against their mid-week starter. Got to like our chances there. Need Plass to throw a gem against Arky then. Would love to get 3 wins in the tourney. Most people I've read or talked to seem to think 2 is a must for any consideration for the NCAA tourney. Would help a lot if LSU/MSU could knock off UF.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:34 am to reedus23
Since you weren't specific in your first statement, I assumed you were talking about the HR Plassmeyer gave up in the 8th vs UT to the #8 hitter that was hitting .171 for the season.
In each inning of the games I have mentioned, the leadoff batter was LH. Since you clarified that you were talking about the SC game, what RHP do you want out of the pen to face the best LH hitter in SC's lineup in the bottom of the 9th of a 0-0 game? Toelken threw 45 pitches on Friday in the win. Ball wasn't getting the rock until they had a lead in that game.
You mention Pferrer but he has done his best work OOC and mid week. You aren't bringing in a guy how has allowed 5 hits in 4 innings of conference work to face Cortes. MDO has allowed 23 hits, issued 20 Walks, and allowed 16 runs in 27 innings of SEC ball. You aren't giving him the ball either. Of the relievers that have thrown primary innings out of the pen in SEC play, Ball is the only one with a BAA allowed below .250. One full recruiting class isn't with 11.7 scholarships to distribute is nowhere near enough time to address the talent differential between the top 1/3 of this conference and what TJ left for him.
In each inning of the games I have mentioned, the leadoff batter was LH. Since you clarified that you were talking about the SC game, what RHP do you want out of the pen to face the best LH hitter in SC's lineup in the bottom of the 9th of a 0-0 game? Toelken threw 45 pitches on Friday in the win. Ball wasn't getting the rock until they had a lead in that game.
You mention Pferrer but he has done his best work OOC and mid week. You aren't bringing in a guy how has allowed 5 hits in 4 innings of conference work to face Cortes. MDO has allowed 23 hits, issued 20 Walks, and allowed 16 runs in 27 innings of SEC ball. You aren't giving him the ball either. Of the relievers that have thrown primary innings out of the pen in SEC play, Ball is the only one with a BAA allowed below .250. One full recruiting class isn't with 11.7 scholarships to distribute is nowhere near enough time to address the talent differential between the top 1/3 of this conference and what TJ left for him.
This post was edited on 5/22/18 at 7:35 am
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:43 am to Mizsioux
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It’s hard to pitch Friday nights with zero run support.
The team hit .224 with 282 SOs during conference play. Samples, Bond, Brumfield, and Hanna were huge holes in the lineup vs SEC pitching. Beiser definitely has his work cut out for him.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 10:01 am to JesusQuintana
quote:this makes him the anti BO
His record the first two years is better than what our talent level would suggest.
Posted on 5/22/18 at 11:03 am to MIZ_COU
Does it?
We won 7 games and had one player drafted?
We won 7 games and had one player drafted?
Posted on 5/22/18 at 7:02 pm to JesusQuintana
0 wins against teams with a winning record. An embarrassing loss to 6-6 TX who was starting their second string. Impressive No?
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