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Posted on 12/27/15 at 3:30 pm to Mizzou Mule
Posted on 12/27/15 at 3:30 pm to Mizzou Mule
So I suppose we should hear about all of the blow jobs from golden girls in the locker room. And all the weed smoked by TJ or whomever. Or hell, for that matter, players should just tweet out the play book because it's the truth.
Truth be told, I'd probably read all of those too (as I'll read TJ) but still wouldn't think it's something that needed to be thrown out there to the public.
Not sure what my agenda would be beyond simply having been in the locker room and knowing that there's just some shite that goes on that just doesn't and shouldn't go public. At this point though, I'd click the shite out of any links of TJ's team mates letting loose with all the shite TJ did while in college.
Truth be told, I'd probably read all of those too (as I'll read TJ) but still wouldn't think it's something that needed to be thrown out there to the public.
Not sure what my agenda would be beyond simply having been in the locker room and knowing that there's just some shite that goes on that just doesn't and shouldn't go public. At this point though, I'd click the shite out of any links of TJ's team mates letting loose with all the shite TJ did while in college.
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Posted on 12/27/15 at 8:58 pm to Mizzou Mule
So.....if his 90% claim isn't accurate?
Dude is just attention whoring and anyone who has been part of a team knows you don't throw your teammates under the bus like that. He could have written the same article without it, but he wanted to stir up shite.
Dude is just attention whoring and anyone who has been part of a team knows you don't throw your teammates under the bus like that. He could have written the same article without it, but he wanted to stir up shite.
Posted on 12/27/15 at 10:16 pm to JesusQuintana
The bullshite about the 90% is that it, of course, isn't scientific and throws nearly all of the rest of his team under the bus. It would have been better if he listed the ones that were hungover or the ones that weren't. But instead he indicts most of the team without a chance to speak up for themselves.
The only person he cleared was himself.
Chickenshit move TJ.
The only person he cleared was himself.
Chickenshit move TJ.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 8:29 am to JesusQuintana
I don't understand why people are so upset. Its college. During an insignificant bowl. Who cares?
I could not care less if players are hungover at a practice during bowl week unless it was a NY6 or Playoff bowl. Anything else is just for fun, and might as well let the kids have fun too. I think it is cool that Moe tells some college stories, albeit so long as he doesn’t get Mizzou in NCAA trouble. I think alot of people, including myself, love stories like this so they can get a glimpse into the life of the college athlete (girls, privileges, etc.) It is a form of living vicariously through these players that is exciting. But if you get offended over something like this, you need to grow some thicker skin.
I could not care less if players are hungover at a practice during bowl week unless it was a NY6 or Playoff bowl. Anything else is just for fun, and might as well let the kids have fun too. I think it is cool that Moe tells some college stories, albeit so long as he doesn’t get Mizzou in NCAA trouble. I think alot of people, including myself, love stories like this so they can get a glimpse into the life of the college athlete (girls, privileges, etc.) It is a form of living vicariously through these players that is exciting. But if you get offended over something like this, you need to grow some thicker skin.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:57 am to JesusQuintana
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Man, this dude just can't quit talking. Don't think he made many friends during the protests (I agreed mostly with what he said there though) and now he just put on an article saying 90% of the team was hungover for bowl game practices and he's getting hammered by his ex teammates.
Why is this such a big deal with people? Not like it's a big surprise that college kids drink or smoke weed. Right? He named no names and said there was at least 10% of the team that wasn't hung over. If it effected me that bad, I'd become the 10% real quick. But something tells me no one really cares about any of this. It's just a first hand experience from a former player.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:42 am to jafo
Lucas Vincent, L'Damiaen Washington, Jarrrell Harrison, EJ Gains, Trey Hobson, Jimmy Hunt, Robert Steeples and Greg Bracy do
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:48 am to JAGsports
POS like TJ Moe keep the hold the program back.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:49 pm to JAGsports
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Lucas Vincent, L'Damiaen Washington, Jarrrell Harrison, EJ Gains, Trey Hobson, Jimmy Hunt, Robert Steeples and Greg Bracy do
9 players. Yeh, that speaks volumes.
I don't personally know TJ. Never will. I view him like the big mouth brother in the family. Really what he says unless it's a lie, doesn't deserve the attention it's getting. I never viewed being hung over that big a deal. That's just me.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:42 pm to jafo
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Why is this such a big deal with people? Not like it's a big surprise that college kids drink or smoke weed. Right? He named no names and said there was at least 10% of the team that wasn't hung over. If it effected me that bad, I'd become the 10% real quick. But something tells me no one really cares about any of this. It's just a first hand experience from a former player.
He's throwing his whole team and coaching staff under the bus to make a buck. To say that they drank too much one night in college? Just sayin if he such an upstanding perfect guy there might have been much more important stuff that he could have spoken up for. It's surprising to me he is probably burning whatever remaining bridges he has with Missouri football.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:48 pm to jafo
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9 players. Yeh, that speaks volumes.
I don't personally know TJ. Never will. I view him like the big mouth brother in the family. Really what he says unless it's a lie, doesn't deserve the attention it's getting. I never viewed being hung over that big a deal. That's just me.
Not meaning to stir the pot like this will...but it seems that race is a factor here. All the players seemingly upset by this are the ones who were upset at him over the racial protest remarks.
Are they really upset over this? or is it just remnants from the race debate?
I'm leaning towards the latter.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:57 pm to TJJefferson
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He's throwing his whole team and coaching staff under the bus to make a buck. To say that they drank too much one night in college? Just sayin if he such an upstanding perfect guy there might have been much more important stuff that he could have spoken up for. It's surprising to me he is probably burning whatever remaining bridges he has with Missouri football.
I can understand the whole internal team thing. As far as it qualifying as being thrown under the bus, really? It's viewed as that bad? I mean he didn't accuse anyone of any really wrong doing. Just accused them of having fun and even said it was the exception and not the rule or norm. Basically he said they went down there and had a good time. Like I said, so what? It was one paragraph out of a story. It's not like he broke some deep dark secret about some scandal cover up or something that would actually hurt the program or players. Are some afraid people would find out if they drank? I just don't understand why it would deserve the reprisal from his teammates.
That's why I said, so what? He's not suppose to share his personal experiences ever of his college days publicly? I think that's a bigger sham.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 2:58 pm to 5thTiger
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Not meaning to stir the pot like this will...but it seems that race is a factor here. All the players seemingly upset by this are the ones who were upset at him over the racial protest remarks.
Are they really upset over this? or is it just remnants from the race debate?
I'm leaning towards the latter.
Really. Hmm. Don't know this for sure but......interesting.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 5:25 am to JAGsports
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What happens in Texas Should stay in Texas
Clearly not a Stevie Ray Vaughn fan.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 9:56 am to 5thTiger
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Not meaning to stir the pot like this will...but it seems that race is a factor here. All the players seemingly upset by this are the ones who were upset at him over the racial protest remarks.
Are they really upset over this? or is it just remnants from the race debate?
That's a pretty large leap there Skippy.
How about maybe just accepting the fact, that many see TJ as throwing his teammates under the bus. Nothing more. Nothing less.
BTW Maybe look at the comments by some of his former teammates... Hmmmm seems like players of both colors, are calling him out.
In the end, there will always be those, who inject race into every issue.
yes it's pathetic.... However, that seems to be the new norm.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 11:39 am to SemperFi
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That's a pretty large leap there Skippy. How about maybe just accepting the fact, that many see TJ as throwing his teammates under the bus. Nothing more. Nothing less. BTW Maybe look at the comments by some of his former teammates... Hmmmm seems like players of both colors, are calling him out. In the end, there will always be those, who inject race into every issue. yes it's pathetic.... However, that seems to be the new norm.
I really don't see it as race related either but there may have been some teammates that never got along whether it's with TJ or other teammates.
Either way, it looks to me as overreacting to something someone said. Don't think anyone's going to jail or being investigated or interrogated over what he wrote. I can't change other opinions, just how I see it myself.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:44 pm to jafo
I don't think anyone thinks anyone is going to jail for this. Just that TJ is a bit of a douche for making the comment. Not the end of the world but I am waiting for someone to figure if it's ok for TJ to discuss locker room material then it's ok for them to tell everyone how TJ was taking dick in the showers or some story of the sort. After all, if it's true, it's ok and not like anyone will go to jail for it.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 12:48 pm to 5thTiger
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Not meaning to stir the pot like this will...but it seems that race is a factor here. All the players seemingly upset by this are the ones who were upset at him over the racial protest remarks.
I think there's definitely some remnants of that.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 1:12 pm to the808bass
Bottom line - Mizzou was unprepared for a game, it showed and they were beaten like a yard dog by a good Navy team. That's squarely on HC Pinkel, the man at the top. He signed a contract and cashes his checks. It's HIS responsibility for "herding these cats", especially during bowl week. They played as a team and lost as a team. (Note: I'm a big Pinkel fan but he is very human, loyal to a fault, doesn't like change and hard-headed.)
As long as it's factual and the truth, let her rip tater chip. What's wrong with the truth??? Somebody said this sounds like the movie "A Few Good Men". "I want the truth! You can't handle the truth!" Some fragile Mizzou fans and some players can't handle the truth? Sounds like it to me.
Blaming Moe or others is just weak, IMHO. Moe did not give one player's or coach's name. Anybody playing the race card is even weaker.
As long as it's factual and the truth, let her rip tater chip. What's wrong with the truth??? Somebody said this sounds like the movie "A Few Good Men". "I want the truth! You can't handle the truth!" Some fragile Mizzou fans and some players can't handle the truth? Sounds like it to me.
Blaming Moe or others is just weak, IMHO. Moe did not give one player's or coach's name. Anybody playing the race card is even weaker.
This post was edited on 12/29/15 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 12/29/15 at 6:32 pm to reedus23
That's where I think the confusion lies. "Locker room" material. Is it really? Even though the players are drinking publically, and others outside the team know they are drinking and party'n? To me, that's not really locker room material. So to me, TJ was just sharing a bowl trip story. Where is the line drawn? He said nothing untruthful. Nothing incriminating. Nothing inappropriate. Named no names. He mentioned the team. Even being part of a team not everyone likes everyone. So there may be some hidden animosity between the players who fired back and TJ. I don't recall any times TJ ever divulged any info while on the team. He is not on the team anymore, so how long and who decides what memories he's allowed to share?
I really stand by what I said before. He more or less said the team partied and had a good time and it probably played a role in their performance. I think some other players have a genuine dislike of TJ no matter what he does.
I really stand by what I said before. He more or less said the team partied and had a good time and it probably played a role in their performance. I think some other players have a genuine dislike of TJ no matter what he does.
Posted on 12/29/15 at 10:32 pm to jafo
We'll just agree to disagree. Like I said, I don't begrudge him the right to say whatever he wants. But my opinion of him now is that he's a douche. I'm sure he won't lose sleep over it though so no worries.
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