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surgicalvenom
Missouri Fan
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Member since Jan 2014
3490 posts

This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
I'm looking at Muschamp and Pruitt specifically in the SEC. But there are others out there ah hmmm...Scott Frost.

If a program is going the wrong way, and you're not quite ready to fire the HC. Then you give an extension so recruits don't smell blood in the water. Then you fire the HC, and now you owe 10 million.

How do you avoid this problem? Too many of these guys are getting alot of money to get fired.


TrueLefty
Missouri Fan
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
5298 posts
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re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
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I'm looking at Muschamp and Pruitt specifically in the SEC. But there are others out there ah hmmm...Scott Frost.

If a program is going the wrong way, and you're not quite ready to fire the HC. Then you give an extension so recruits don't smell blood in the water. Then you fire the HC, and now you owe 10 million.

How do you avoid this problem? Too many of these guys are getting alot of money to get fired.



Where do I sign up for a HC gig?
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blueprint_one
Missouri Fan
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
626 posts

re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
The big one is Jim Harbaugh right now. Talk about a guy who looks like he is one step out the door.


In the end, it's all about the university donors/alumni/boosters and how much they'll shell out to have a clean break with an underperforming coach.

Mizzou can extend Drink for a reasonable price with a relatively average buyout where both sides will be happy if things don't work out. That's why Mizzou never gets a big name.


blueprint_one
Missouri Fan
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
626 posts

re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
This is also a double-edged sword for an overperforming coach. If Drink turns Mizzou around and has a cheap buyout, he could go to a bigger program. TBQF, I think he would leave Mizzou if he got the right offer after one awesome season.


Drydock
US Navy Fan
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
2214 posts

re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
I'm not so sure. We may have a nice situation here. Where could he go?

Michigan? No, name not big enough, history of true son hires as well. Will want more head coach experience.

Tennessee? Lateral move, orange Nebraska. He's not dumb enough for that. And if truly successful, I think the admin will pony up enough to resist.

Cincinnati? Fickell moves on, a step down. Nope.

Nebraska? See Tennessee. But even dumber.

South Carolina? Lateral move again.

Penn State? See Michigan.

Texas? See Michigan. But more arrogant.

Vanderbilt? Hahahahahahahaha!

Anywhere in the PAC 12? Again, he's not that dumb.

Further down the road? Alabama? Saban will hand pick that from his own coaching tree. Georgia will want another Sabanite as well, or Smart might get smart and find a QB.

If he's truly successful, it will not be a lateral move. But the big jobs are either already filled, or will be this spring by someone else. Stupid money could change this, but I see not less than 3 years, a high chance of 5 years, and perhaps more if the money is right. And a fun ride the whole time, IMHO.





Ridgewalker
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Member since Aug 2012
2341 posts

re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
If Drink can build the Mizzou brand and turn the team into a SEC contender on an annual basis why would he want to move on?

Expectations at Mizzou are lower than a 'bama, etc. The cash will be there but more importantly he could be the man at Mizzou for a long time.


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the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
We would pay $6M in 2020 dollars for a .500 SEC record as long as we were close to going to Atlanta once every 5 years.


TrueLefty
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St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
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We would pay $6M in 2020 dollars for a .500 SEC record as long as we were close to going to Atlanta once every 5 years.


Not right now! If he is making huge improvements and beating some top teams and the recruiting class is in the top 25. Then we can try to match anyone and convince him to stay or what other things to help make him stay at Mizzou.


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Wtodd
Missouri Fan
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
55255 posts

re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
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How do you avoid this problem?

By not overreacting and hiring or giving an extension based on what he did last week.


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blueprint_one
Missouri Fan
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2015
626 posts

re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
The college landscape changes vastly year to year. If Drinkwitz got an offer from a program that's in an easier conference with a better national exposure and significantly more money, he would leave.

Explain to me why the Pac-12 is bad option again? Easier conference and probably more money than Mizzou would ever give him. National exposure is always an issue tho with the West Coast.


outlawjoseywales
Missouri Fan
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1789 posts

re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
Pac-12 is only a bad option if your a HC who wants to win a National Championship. Not going to happen for a while for a Pac-12 team. But the money and the facilities are definitely there.

The AAC is not as bad conference. I think they could go .500 with the Pac-12 the last few seasons.




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Drydock
US Navy Fan
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
2214 posts

re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
Everything except Oregon and USC is a lateral move for money that could be easily matched. Oregon is set for the foreseeable future. USC wants Meyer/BIG name, Drinkwitz will not be a big enough name for several years.

Crootin' is a big consideration here. Many will want to see how he does with his own recruits.

I think he'll need to go to Atlanta at least twice before a Blue BLood gets serious. If he's as good as I think he will be (Personal opinion alert) this will still be years in the making.

Far too early to be worried about this.


TrueLefty
Missouri Fan
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
5298 posts
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re: This has nothing to do with Drink!!!
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Everything except Oregon and USC is a lateral move for money that could be easily matched. Oregon is set for the foreseeable future. USC wants Meyer/BIG name, Drinkwitz will not be a big enough name for several years.

Crootin' is a big consideration here. Many will want to see how he does with his own recruits.

I think he'll need to go to Atlanta at least twice before a Blue BLood gets serious. If he's as good as I think he will be (Personal opinion alert) this will still be years in the making.

Far too early to be worried about this.



There are a lot of new coaches that are on the rise so Drinkwitz will not be the one to get since he isn't turning Missouri around in 1 year. need 3 years at least to see any improvements and beat some top 10 teams. Then there is recruiting that needed to be accounted for. No one is going after Drinkwitz without seeing a huge improvement. Look what Odom did at Missouri! Then crashed and burned! Lookat Pruitt at Tennessee! Got to wait 3 to 4 years to see anything worthwhile. Do not take the bate by fans of other teams! They like to mess with you!


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