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re: Team drama that started on homecoming

Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:43 pm to
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Read back the Austyn Carta Samuel’s tweet in context now.


I had actually forgot about this and it also lines up perfectly.

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And that’s why when Sterk said to the coaches, “What the frick happened?” No one could answer. Because you can’t say your $50M business fell apart because your hired gun QB came in and laid some pipe and an egg all at the same time.


Maybe it makes no difference, but maybe he should have said exactly that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:44 pm to
He 100% should have.

And Powell should’ve started against Kentucky.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 7:45 pm
Posted by navynuke
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:49 pm to
Powell should have started against Vandy. What KB did was not in the best interest of the team. You don't have to like each other but you will respect each other. I defended his play but that was a horseshite decision.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 7:50 pm
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:49 pm to
Every team does have drama. It's up to the coaches to deal with that drama. Or to act like doesn't exist apparently

Either way it looks bringing KB in cost Dooley his career, and set Odom's back 10 years
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 8:01 pm
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:49 pm to
Again, I don’t want to say that I’m completely absolving him of this but I think you are way underselling the impact of this event.

It matters what happened but even more who it happened too. It seems a pretty impossible situation for a coach to navigate. Maybe he could have done better. I don’t know exactly what he did. I doubt he completely ignored it, but when something like this happens and then the majority of the players on your team don’t like the QB. Surely even the most ardent “Odom has to go” fans can agree that this is, at the very least, an extremely difficult situation.

The fact that the offense went from pretty good to complete dogshit directly following this event just can’t be ignored if one is even trying to be honest about this mess. That can’t just be a coincidence. When have you ever seen that happen before? Ebbs and flows sure. A complete devolution into something that doesn’t even resemble football anymore? Nah, it’s just not a reasonable take at all.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:52 pm to
Assuming the coaches knew it that week, yeah. I’d guess they didn’t know until the next week.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:53 pm to
I’ve started working my way through chicks replying to Kboogies IG posts. I’ll see what I come up with. Got shite to do tonight.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:57 pm to
Bass and Nuke, regarding Powell. That’s a reasonable take and perhaps that was his biggest mistake. He knows Powell sucks though, and I would assume he thought that these guys could put this aside and play football which obviously they couldn’t.

Head coach is ultimately responsible for the results and that’s fair. Some context is also fair here.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:58 pm to
Oh it definitely played a role JQ. Didn't mean to sound like it didn't. But, I am saying that part of the reason BO got paid millions was to deal with stupid shite like this. The other thing it shows me is that there was a complete lack of leadership among the players too. Someone had to not just give the "Bro's before hoe's" speech but make sure it sunk in.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:00 pm to
I agree. I feel bad for him in a lot of ways. Because a lot of things were outside his control.

But he set the culture. And now he lives with it.

That’s the reality of coaching 18-22 year olds for millions of dollars. A hookup from two college kids plays a huge role in determining your career.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:04 pm to
I mean he still lose to Wyoming before this shite happened.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:04 pm to
Clemson, Arkansas, and Auburn fans were saying glad we did not picked him up. Also Clemson fans said he was not a reliable quarterback. 2 years back he cost the team a win against a real bad team. Last year they replaced him because they did not think they can win the championship with him. At the end Mizzou made a huge mistake to bring him in but Mizzou did not have anyone else reliable quarterback to be a starter. One is a freshman the other were not worthy starters. Again Mizzou was a quarterback away to compete for the SEC east division. Remember that part? We failed to get the right quarterback. Seen it on the field. Three of the 6 losses was on the quarterback. Possible four.
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:07 pm to
that was the defense not having their s*** together in the first game of the season. It's always something
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:14 pm to
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that was the defense not having their s*** together in the first game of the season. It's always something


Kelly Bryant did not played very well! If Kelly played like a 4* quarterback then Mizzou would have won 3 games for sure. I know there were some other situation. But if Bryant did his part Mizzou would have won 3 of the 6 games that was decided by the quarterback playing poorly!
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:14 pm to
That’s true. They played shitty on defense and lost. They also won 5 in a row after that and found themselves in the top 25.

A bad loss every so often can be overcome. Losing the entire fanbase can not.

And again, I really don’t want to turn this into another Odom debate. You guys know I liked him. I still do. If I’m being 100% honest Inthinknwe could easily end up regretting this. I know others didn’t and have their reasons. It really doesn’t matter at this point. What’s done is done.

My worry now becomes that Sterk went into this guns a blazing and really never allowed for the possibility that the search was going to sour. Perhaps that’s wrong. I hope so
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:21 pm to
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That’s true. They played shitty on defense and lost. They also won 5 in a row after that and found themselves in the top 25. A bad loss every so often can be overcome. Losing the entire fanbase can not. And again, I really don’t want to turn this into another Odom debate. You guys know I liked him. I still do. If I’m being 100% honest Inthinknwe could easily end up regretting this. I know others didn’t and have their reasons. It really doesn’t matter at this point. What’s done is done. My worry now becomes that Sterk went into this guns a blazing and really never allowed for the possibility that the search was going to sour. Perhaps that’s wrong. I hope so


The point you do not fire a head coach if Kelly Bryant brought in the problem. That can be fix with next year quarterback in place and the defense in placed. But I agree to replace the head coach IF Sterk could get a much better head coach that will bring the fans to the games and support this new head coach.
Posted by TigerCruise
Virginia Beach, VA
Member since Oct 2013
11898 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:25 pm to
When are you going to listen?

Odom was fired because he was a jackass and didnt get along with Sterk
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
18644 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:30 pm to
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When are you going to listen? Odom was fired because he was a jackass and didnt get along with Sterk


So Sterk have a better a better head coach in the bag? Also that will bring in fans back to the game at Mizzou? I sure hope so! That is what many are getting nervous because rumors were saying he is doing a terrible job and is striking out to get a better head coach that is going to get fans back to the stands next year and beyond.
One I will take is Bryan Harsin!
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
8759 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:35 pm to
You're nine years old, aren't you.
Posted by MIZ58
KCMO
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Posted on 12/5/19 at 11:09 pm to
I've said it once I'll say it again...Odom was on record that that KB was QB1 when he committed. That is not how competitive sports work...entire roster fighting for their role, competing, grinding, and this dude comes in anointed and guaranteed QB1. Odds are maybe he was the best we had, but he never had to EARN that shite.

Now we hearing the anointed one is boning other players bitches and wonder where things fell apart.

All goes back to head coach. You cannot be weak in HC role, any leadership role. People need guidance, direction, clarity...leaders provide this, not those anointed in something not earned.
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