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Posted on 10/6/18 at 5:47 pm to JesusQuintana
Posted on 10/6/18 at 5:47 pm to JesusQuintana
Respectable analysis. Welcome to the real world. 
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Posted on 10/6/18 at 5:48 pm to wubilli
Wubilli if it’s a lack of talent then that’s on Odom. If it’s not developing players then that’s on Odom. But what hurts worse is the sloppy play and lack of discipline. That killed us in the last two games and that is completely on Odom.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 5:49 pm to Drydock
The thing is though, I’m not giddy about firing him.
We are not in a good position if he doesn’t work out.
We are not in a good position if he doesn’t work out.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 5:51 pm to JesusQuintana
I agree. I don’t think Uga not sc looked like superior athletes. I think it all falls on bo and getting out coached
Posted on 10/6/18 at 5:59 pm to reedus23
Sterk has shown he can find a good coach in Basketball.
I want a Mark Stoops style hire. I want someone who knows what he's doing, is willing to admit it will be ugly before it gets good, who shows strong fundamental play, good player discipline and good in state recruiting, who doesn't grandstand and thump his chest when he feels put upon.
I want a coach who does not blame his kicker for a stupid onside kick call!
I want a Mark Stoops style hire. I want someone who knows what he's doing, is willing to admit it will be ugly before it gets good, who shows strong fundamental play, good player discipline and good in state recruiting, who doesn't grandstand and thump his chest when he feels put upon.
I want a coach who does not blame his kicker for a stupid onside kick call!
This post was edited on 10/7/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 10/6/18 at 6:32 pm to Drydock
Like Bob Stoops specifically? Well yeah, but I can’t see that happening.
If we hire a new coach it will be a G5 coach or a P5 coordinator almost assuredly which means it will be a gamble at best. Maybe we get a Dan Mullen but we could also get a Joe Moorhead
If we hire a new coach it will be a G5 coach or a P5 coordinator almost assuredly which means it will be a gamble at best. Maybe we get a Dan Mullen but we could also get a Joe Moorhead
Posted on 10/6/18 at 6:32 pm to reedus23
Reedus I think the defensive problems go deeper than that. Yes Mizzou needs to recruit better, the attrition of the last 2 Pinkel classes has forced several recruits from BO’s recruiting classes to play bigger roles than they are ready for.
If BO survives the season, the offense will have to be really good again next season as I think the defense is still 2 years away from the chance of being good.
If BO survives the season, the offense will have to be really good again next season as I think the defense is still 2 years away from the chance of being good.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 7:58 pm to wubilli
So who or what do you see coming in Year 5 that can turn this thing around?
Posted on 10/6/18 at 8:11 pm to Mizz-SEC
A combination of current players getting better and stacking some recruiting classes so that there’s depth and options.
Posted on 10/6/18 at 8:13 pm to wubilli
Do you see any DEs who can beat a tackle around the corner on the horizon?
Posted on 10/6/18 at 8:18 pm to Mizz-SEC
Not sure about Turner, but Williams, Hansford and Jeffcoat seem to be athletic enough that it’s a possibility.
Posted on 10/7/18 at 12:23 am to Mizz-SEC
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So who or what do you see coming in Year 5 that can turn this thing around?
I think he's saying that guys we have no idea who they even are yet will come in and be better. Not sure how one can predict that without knowing who that even is but I think that is what he is saying.
Posted on 10/7/18 at 6:31 am to reedus23
I just hope we don't start losing recruits and commits. I really think that this team is better than last year, but we have become a more pound and ground team. A methodical offense and a bend like hell defense. Our d-line doesn't go after the qb now, but more of a stuff the run bunch. New Identity
Posted on 10/7/18 at 7:16 am to Zou brownmajic
Gabe Dearmond posted this last night
Kansas City Star
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You guys know me, I'm not going to come on here and rant and rave and fire a guy. But I will say this: If we're at the point after the season where Barry Odom might get fired (and I think it's possible) then today's the day we should have started recognizing the possibility.
Miscommunication on an onside kick? Mind numbing penalties? Just not covering a guy with 42 seconds left in the game? Rushing three and still not being able to cover anybody to prevent an easy pitch and catch to turn a missable field goal into a chip shot? Doing these things over and over week after week?
This is not a disciplined football team. It just isn't. Argue the other side of that if you want to, but you won't convince me I'm wrong. There is some talent on this team. Not a ridiculous amount where we should be talking about winning the SEC but they've got some talent. They've got more than South Carolina had. They should have won this game. Period. This is as bad a loss as I can remember in a while, not only because you should have won, but because you had it won a couple different times and you gave it away.
This is one that lingers. It won't matter next week because that's a loss anyway. But sitting 3-3, there's not gonna be much excitement from the fans coming back for Homecoming. At this point, they can make a bowl game and get to seven wins if they can beat Arkansas, Tennessee, Memphis and Vandy. And I think they can probably do that. To me, that really doesn't prove anything. At the end of the year, if your best win is Purdue, I'm just not sold that's progress.
We'll see where it all goes. No choice but to wait. But today was as discouraging a game as I've seen in a while. If you're just not good enough, fine. Missouri just wasn't good enough two years ago. This year, they're good enough. And they aren't getting it done.
Kansas City Star
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This keeps happening, is the thing. This is Odom’s third season and his 30th game — 3-2 this season, and 14-16 overall — and he still has more of these tense postgame press conferences than wins that fans are proud of.
This post was edited on 10/7/18 at 7:25 am
Posted on 10/7/18 at 11:39 am to Zou brownmajic
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I really think that this team is better than last year
This is what I'm not understanding. Clearly Mizzou is doing far and away better this year but people are acting like we have regressed.
Last year purdue blew us out, this year we win. Last year Georgia blew us out, we were competitive to the very end. Last year SC pretty well had us by a pretty health margin, this year we had the game but shite the bed at the end.
Everything has been better this year by a fair margin. This panic is far overblown at this point. If we do start regressing then I'll gladly take the unhappy side. But honestly, everything is going better than last year, if this trend holds we are going to win 8-9 regular season games.
eta: I don't spend a lot of energy on the details in this football world, so if there is something I'm missing I do appreciate being enlightened beyond what I'm seeing.
This post was edited on 10/7/18 at 11:43 am
Posted on 10/7/18 at 11:56 am to zatetic
We are playing below our potential...that’s the problem. We had a good enough team to win every game on our schedule sans Alabama and we are going to fall well short of that.
The team IS better. I agree, but we continually make the same dumbass mistakes over and over and we shite down our legs more often than not when it matters including our SR QB...maybe most of all our SR QB.
That and the secondary is hot garbage which is not acceptable. We don’t have great talent back there but even avg talent has no excuse to be that bad.
There are some positives, but just too many things that should be better than they are.
The team IS better. I agree, but we continually make the same dumbass mistakes over and over and we shite down our legs more often than not when it matters including our SR QB...maybe most of all our SR QB.
That and the secondary is hot garbage which is not acceptable. We don’t have great talent back there but even avg talent has no excuse to be that bad.
There are some positives, but just too many things that should be better than they are.
Posted on 10/7/18 at 11:57 am to zatetic
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if this trend holds we are going to win 8-9 regular season games.
We could. But not by playing the way we have this far.
Posted on 10/7/18 at 12:01 pm to JesusQuintana
quote:Many of us have been telling you this for the longest time and you blew it off as us being bad fans, always negative, wanting Odom fired, getting a kick out of us losing so we could be right etc...welcome to the real world.
we shite down our legs more often than not
Posted on 10/7/18 at 12:13 pm to zatetic
There are two things at play IMO.
The team is an overall better team, so you see them beating Purdue and playing close with UGA and SC.
However, they are a better team playing worse and that's why Purdue becomes a closer game than it should have been, why you lose to UGA and SC, both games where you were a better team that simply wasn't coached very well.
Therein lies the frustration. Losing games because of coaching (or lack of it) should be the rarity, not the norm. I think this team has the talent to win 8 or 9 games. But if this trend continues, they will have to work to get 6 wins.
The team is an overall better team, so you see them beating Purdue and playing close with UGA and SC.
However, they are a better team playing worse and that's why Purdue becomes a closer game than it should have been, why you lose to UGA and SC, both games where you were a better team that simply wasn't coached very well.
Therein lies the frustration. Losing games because of coaching (or lack of it) should be the rarity, not the norm. I think this team has the talent to win 8 or 9 games. But if this trend continues, they will have to work to get 6 wins.
Posted on 10/7/18 at 12:41 pm to TigerTalker16
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and he still has more of these tense postgame press conferences than wins that fans are proud of.
So did anyone hear his post-game presser? Was it saltiness?
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