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So after we lose to UGA on Wednesday ...

Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:04 pm
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:04 pm
What's the acceptable W/L for Gates in 24/25?

I'm good with bringing him back at 20 wins for 25/26. That's the bar.

Anything less and he needs to be gone ...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:51 pm to
I think .500 is the bar.

And make no mistake, he’s going to need to pull a genie out of his hat to accomplish it.
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:55 pm to
At .500 his arse needs to be gone ...

This is Haith 2.0 if he wins less than 20 ...
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:30 pm to
I think it’s closer to .500.

He’s going to need to get at least two studs in the portal to do that.

So if he can get two studs in the portal, keep his incoming recruits incoming and get a good class for 2025, he buys more time.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 9:12 am to
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I think .500 is the bar.


I think .500 SEC record should be the bar but I'm also expecting our basketball program to be competitive every year. Maybe that is unrealistic.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 11:36 am to
Unless Gates changes some things in his philosophy I don't see any long term success unfortunatley. The defense played by this team both years has been bad, real bad. It was shored up last year because Hodge set a school record in steals. Defense on the perimeter is pathetic. This year the block rate is high but it does not matter. Teams shots are too often not even contested and the 3 point % vs Mizzou is telling. Add to that the lack ANY Gates lead teams being even decent in rebonding compiles the issue. Last year worked as a talented and veteran ball club. Have yet to see much in player development either.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 12:21 pm to
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The defense played by this team both years has been bad, real bad


Spot on. Gates coaching style is to defense what Cuonzo coaching style was to offense ...

I still have a sliver of hope he can grow out of this season but it would take a wholesale coaching paradigm shift that I don't think he's capable of.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 12:52 pm to
quote:

Unless Gates changes some things in his philosophy I don't see any long term success unfortunatley.


I would agree. Defense and rebounding matter, a lot. $21million buyout is a lot but I wouldn't be upset if the new AD made it happen.

I dont see how a coach of a team this bad could ever be expected to compete at the highest levels.

Not to mention that loss to princeton last year was just unacceptable in hindsight.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/12/24 at 1:35 pm to
I am not ready to cut bait but that long leash from last year is short now.
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