re: Mike Alden realized his terrible mistake cheap frick

My take is Haith is an okay coach based on what he has accomplished. There's better and there's worse. His record at Miami doesn't impress me. It doesn't make me say he's horrible.

His record at Missouri concerns me. So far, it has been a downward spiral. The thing that is odd is that usually rebuilding results in year 1 being the worst year and each successive year being better. In Haith's case, year 1 was the best year and each year since has gotten successively worse. I think he gets 2 more years to see if his first 3 years were a "delay" in the start of that rebuilding due to the dorked up classes MA left him with or if his first 3 years were a downward spiral because he's just not that good of a coach. Time will tell and I just hope it's the former because otherwise the next 2 years are going to suck.

ETA - In other words...no more fricking excuses for not making the tourney and failing to be competitive in one of the worst basketball conferences in the country. From now on, it's on Haith.

Not entirely accurate go watch his introductory press conference he said he graduated 22/23 players while at Miami

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The thing that is odd is that usually rebuilding results in year 1 being the worst year and each successive year being better. In Haith's case, year 1 was the best year and each year since has gotten successively worse.

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We had a ton of seniors in year 1 and hardly any other players the other years. Why would year 1 be our worst?

beastmode

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I'm still one of the few staunch supporters of Haith.

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Then you know that he has only been to the NCAA tourney once in his 8 years at Miami and he has yet to win Tourney game even with Suitcase's loaded team.

I am underwhelmed and based on 11 years worth of track record, he sucks.

I honestly did not know that Haith never once had a winning record in conference play at Miami. Best he ever did was 8-8.

Most of you are letting your raw emotions get the best of you, and it probably stems from the hire to begin with not really his coaching abilities. Just ask yourselves this question, has any coach who has ever coached at Mizzou consistently brought in the elite talent he seems to be getting to Mizzou. You're not prepared to admit it, but Mizzou has never been a "national brand" where you could sell recruits anywhere in the country. Haith is bringing elite players from California, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona... the only thing I would like to see him recruit better is Misosuri. Getting elite recruits to even visit Mizzou has been a challenge because we don't have same basketball history as Duke, Florida, Kenutcky.
Another aspect overlooked is his development of players when they get to Mizzou. Alex Oriaki developed a scoring game he never showcased at UCONN, Jabarai Brown has become more than just a shooter, and now has the ablility to drive to the basket. Kim English statistically had his best season with Haith as his coach because he created a mismatch by using him at the 4.
His ability to adapt to personal is something he also doesn't receive enough credit for. If you remember in his first season we lacked depth in the post, and Haith went to a four guard lineup to take advantage of our speed, and shooting abilities. Last year we had more of a post presence with Alex Oriaki, and Laurence Bowers so we utilized the post game to our advantage. This season we lacked a post presence so Haith was forced to go 4 flat, and have Clarkson/ Brown go one on one, and kick to open shooter. His ability to adapt to his personal is something he doesn't get enough credit for.
To me his biggest issue has been late game execution, and encouraging players to defend. Obviously some late game situations didn't look like what was drawn up. (SEC tournament) Haith did have some success in late games this year against Arkansas, ( Clarkson drive and kick to Ross),LSU( Double stagger screen he ran for Brown to hit tying three pointer), ISO offense for Clarkson in late game situations.
Some of the things you guys overlook Haith has improved from Anderson our becoming one of the best rebounding teams in the conference, ability to get second shots off offensive rebounds, and how well our guards rebound. We have become one of the best free throw shooting teams in the conference, and get to the line as often/more often than Kentucky.
Haith in my opinion needs one more season with only his personal to show what he can really do, and I believe Haith deserves another season for as much beratement he has received since arriving at Mizzou.

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But because he walked into a team that was senior laden, year 1 didn't suck and the re-build process didn't actually start until after those guys left and thus one reason why year 3 looked putrid instead of showing signs of life.

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I feel like this shows a weakness of Haith, though. Because he wouldn't allow a natural rebuilding process to occur in year 2, he doomed himself to this year in year 3 and a foreseeable worse year in year 4.

And his inability to let the players develop on the floor over the year, I'd say Post and Jones are good examples of this, kept him from having a good post game by the end of the year.

I think he favors a quick fix over a long-term solution. And I think it creates some of the disenchantment, because it's hard to see where he's going.

Probably too philosophical an answer, but it's a gut feeling.

Don't disagree with you either 808. I haven't hidden the fact that I don't like taking transfers and we've continued doing so long after the need for transfers/JUCO players was addressed.

Personally, wish he would have given Jones more time all season. I think he could have developed that much more over the season. I'm just not sold on post. He just doesn't look very athletic out there.