Started By
Message
Mauk
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:11 pm
Okay
So just want to get the opinion of others who have now seen Mauk play a couple games.
I made the argument that he's not a big time div 1 athlete. That he is just a gunslinger with an arm, he may use his feet when things are given to him, but overall he just isn't athletic enough to be a qb in a major conference.
To me he looks like a JV kid that got called up to varsity. His body looks childlike compared to his competition, his motor skills are a bit awkward, and he has no touch on short passes.
He seems to have a Johnny Manziel type personality without the talent. He's already been arrested. Already exploded with party pics online. I just arghhh.
Agree - disagree?
So just want to get the opinion of others who have now seen Mauk play a couple games.
I made the argument that he's not a big time div 1 athlete. That he is just a gunslinger with an arm, he may use his feet when things are given to him, but overall he just isn't athletic enough to be a qb in a major conference.
To me he looks like a JV kid that got called up to varsity. His body looks childlike compared to his competition, his motor skills are a bit awkward, and he has no touch on short passes.
He seems to have a Johnny Manziel type personality without the talent. He's already been arrested. Already exploded with party pics online. I just arghhh.
Agree - disagree?
This post was edited on 10/27/13 at 4:37 pm
2
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:16 pm to Sleeping Tiger
He needs to learn how to put touch on his pass bot ever pass has to be gunned in..
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:18 pm to wstorie44
quote:
He needs to learn how to put touch on his pass bot ever pass has to be gunned in..
What do you see when he runs?
I see an inferior athlete to everyone around him.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:28 pm to Sleeping Tiger
he made so nice runs and he made some wtf are doing moments but that flip pass he made was nice lol..he also lets his arm overload his but thrown in to coverage way to much but he is young still
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:32 pm to Sleeping Tiger
I'm not so worried about when he runs. But he doesn't look like "the answer" to me, overall. Just my uneducated opinion.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:36 pm to the808bass
Just overall he's not the answer, I agree with that.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:37 pm to Sleeping Tiger
quote:
What do you see when he runs? I see an inferior athlete to everyone around him.
I see a young backup QB starting his 2nd game in the SEC.
??????
I thought last week he was the best thing since sliced bread to you after beating Florida. After this loss you've changed your argument? I mean, nothing wrong with that. Everyone has the right to change thier opinions.
Who would you put in his place?
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:42 pm to Sleeping Tiger
I think you're being too harsh on him. He is a JV kid that got called up to the varsity.
Mauk has the kind of arm you can't teach and will have to learn what he can and can't do on the college / SEC level. It'll be up to the coaching staff to teach him what he can't figure out through experience.
Compare Mauk's arm and accuracy to that back-up Carolina trotted out there. Now he looked like a non-D1 player.
I do think he has touch, but I'll reserve further thoughts until I re-watch the game to give a fairer evaluation.
Mauk has the kind of arm you can't teach and will have to learn what he can and can't do on the college / SEC level. It'll be up to the coaching staff to teach him what he can't figure out through experience.
Compare Mauk's arm and accuracy to that back-up Carolina trotted out there. Now he looked like a non-D1 player.
I do think he has touch, but I'll reserve further thoughts until I re-watch the game to give a fairer evaluation.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:43 pm to jafo
quote:
I thought last week he was the best thing since sliced bread to you after beating Florida.
Not at all true. Before the FLA game I said I'm warming up to the idea we can pull off some wins with him.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:45 pm to Mizz-SEC
quote:
I think you're being too harsh on him. He is a JV kid that got called up to the varsity.
Mauk has the kind of arm you can't teach and will have to learn what he can and can't do on the college / SEC level. It'll be up to the coaching staff to teach him what he can't figure out through experience.
Compare Mauk's arm and accuracy to that back-up Carolina trotted out there. Now he looked like a non-D1 player.
I do think he has touch, but I'll reserve further thoughts until I re-watch the game to give a fairer evaluation.
I've had nothing but good things to say about his arm. He has great deep ball accuracy. I have not knocked his arm other that saying he needs more touch on short passes.
My OP and my concern all along is his athleticism. He just doesn't look the part, RS freshman or not. His body and motor skills just don't look the part.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:46 pm to Sleeping Tiger
quote:
Not at all true. Before the FLA game I said I'm warming up to the idea we can pull off some wins with him.
My mistake.
So who would you put out there?
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:50 pm to jafo
quote:
My mistake.
So who would you put out there?
I mean, I don't think making negative observations about Mauk automatically means someone else should be out there. I think it just means I don't think this is the guy next year.
I don't get to watch practice, so it's hard to say if Printz is going to give us a better chance to win. I don't get to be in the training room to see how JF's shoulder is responding to treatment. I wouldn't make sense to burn Printz if he's only marginally better or the same as Mauk and JF is truly expected back for the Ole Miss game.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:56 pm to Sleeping Tiger
OK, I'll answer your question in another way.
I think being he is a backup QB and not having the experience, the game is faster than he is right now. His spins in the backfield are hurting him. While he's spinning around like a top, he's not looking down field. He possibly misses throwing windows in the secondary scrambling like he does. He needs to learn to slide to the open field but keep his vision downfield. As far as running, I see nothing wrong with his running ability. It's his decisions on when to pull it down and run. The game speed plays in here big time. Decisions have to be quicker and more decisive. For me the jury is still out on Mauk. 2 starts are not enough for me to really settle on whether he is "it", or he's just a career backup.
As far as being athletic, I think he's athletic enough to get the job done, but he's not a freakish athlete like a Cam Newton. Tebow was a good athlete but a horrible QB really outside the offense they built around his style.
I think being he is a backup QB and not having the experience, the game is faster than he is right now. His spins in the backfield are hurting him. While he's spinning around like a top, he's not looking down field. He possibly misses throwing windows in the secondary scrambling like he does. He needs to learn to slide to the open field but keep his vision downfield. As far as running, I see nothing wrong with his running ability. It's his decisions on when to pull it down and run. The game speed plays in here big time. Decisions have to be quicker and more decisive. For me the jury is still out on Mauk. 2 starts are not enough for me to really settle on whether he is "it", or he's just a career backup.
As far as being athletic, I think he's athletic enough to get the job done, but he's not a freakish athlete like a Cam Newton. Tebow was a good athlete but a horrible QB really outside the offense they built around his style.
This post was edited on 10/27/13 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 10/27/13 at 4:57 pm to Sleeping Tiger
quote:
I mean, I don't think making negative observations about Mauk automatically means someone else should be out there. I think it just means I don't think this is the guy next year.
Got it. Understood.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 5:11 pm to jafo
He's young and it shows. His completion percentage probably isn't much better than what Berk's was last year. I think he throws a good deep ball. I think he hasn't learned to take something off of the shorter throws. I thought his decision making was a bit better this last game. He threw a few balls 10 yards out of bounds instead of trying to force it. His spins are unnecessary in most cases and as was said, he's taking his eyes off of the field when he does that and he is usually going backwards 5-10 yards at the same time.
If Franklin was an "A" while healthy, I'd give Mauk a "C" or "C+". He easily could have been picked 6-8 times now, but he hasn't been. I think as a back up he's better than Florida's backup, or SC's and probably most other schools backups. I don't think he's the future though. I think Printz is the future.
Keep in mind, all of those opinions are being expressed by someone who didn't think Franklin had it in him to do what he had done this year so it's all probably pretty worthless.
If Franklin was an "A" while healthy, I'd give Mauk a "C" or "C+". He easily could have been picked 6-8 times now, but he hasn't been. I think as a back up he's better than Florida's backup, or SC's and probably most other schools backups. I don't think he's the future though. I think Printz is the future.
Keep in mind, all of those opinions are being expressed by someone who didn't think Franklin had it in him to do what he had done this year so it's all probably pretty worthless.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 5:59 pm to reedus23
quote:
I don't think he's the future though. I think Printz is the future.
Could be true. But how can we really say at this point? This is really something thats talked about and decided after the season. I don't think anyone is equal or better that Mauk on this roster right now except Franklin. Or I really do think Pinkel would play them. There are other players who are freshman playing on this team now. Printz might be the future, but this is Mauks chance to show he's the one. He's he's 1-1. Lets just see where it goes. I think USCe defense doesn't get the hype or credit due. They are a very sound and talented defense. But this coaching staff is going to have to set Mauk up to win by working on some audible plays he can go to at the line. He doesn't have that right now. So he's got one arm tide behind his back, add in rookie mistakes and he's going to look pedestrian at times. He's a work in progress. I've said it before, Franklin didn't set the world on fire either when he first came up.
This post was edited on 10/28/13 at 6:51 am
Posted on 10/27/13 at 8:24 pm to jafo
I think he will improve rapidly. He's smart Last night was good for him. He will be better against tenn and really good against OM.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 11:28 pm to Aux Arc
Heres my opinion. The kid has potential. Obviously Pinkel saw something in him when he recruited him. I don't think he have the time to really dig into this kid and get his potential out. I think with some work, he will be fine. However, Franklin is a better quarterback and we need him back as soon as we can.
Also, another thing with Mauk. This kid can't feel pressure coming, drop back, and run back 9 yards. IMO, that is what screwed us out of some crucial field position that could have lead to points.
I am not going to be harsh on this kid. He is young. I think he is going to be fine in a year or two.
Also, another thing with Mauk. This kid can't feel pressure coming, drop back, and run back 9 yards. IMO, that is what screwed us out of some crucial field position that could have lead to points.
I am not going to be harsh on this kid. He is young. I think he is going to be fine in a year or two.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 11:34 pm to MIZZOU RAH120
quote:
Also, another thing with Mauk. This kid can't feel pressure coming, drop back, and run back 9 yards. IMO, that is what screwed us out of some crucial field position that could have lead to points
If you watch his HS highlights, he does this on nearly every play.
He started in a deep shotgun and would drop back, almost run back another 10 yards like it was a video game and then make a play with that cannon of an arm.
He was able to do this because he was a good HS athlete, and he was playing against poor competition.
He now try's to do the same thing in college, but he's not Johnny Manziel, you have to be that good to pull what Mauk pulled in HS.
He's been here 2 years now. The young thing is getting overused.
Posted on 10/27/13 at 11:40 pm to Sleeping Tiger
I agree with you on that. The point I was trying to make is, he needs to learn that he CAN'T do that anymore. I think there is potential, and think we will dig into him and find it.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News