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J'Mon Moore

Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:41 am
Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:41 am
I think the criticism of him being horrible is unsubstantiated at this point of the season. However you feel about him outside of the white lines is different and should be separated, in my opinion.

To be honest I don't think he played that bad on Saturday. I don't think he was great either, but horrible?

Like Chris Black said, even the greatest drop passes. Hell, 6 or so of his targets were not even catchable because of bad ball placement.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 10:42 am
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:46 am to
He's not horrible. He's also not a guy that needs to get 23 targets in one game.

He's something in between.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15962 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:00 am to
I hate the saying "if you can get a finger on the ball you should catch it." A few of those balls were hard to catch. But 2 of them were the softest, easiest throws he will get all season to catch. It's hard to get offensive momentum with routine dropped balls. Those have to stop.



Interesting quote from J'mon regarding Black. I like that he sees himself as a big time player, but he needs to make big time plays to go with it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

think the criticism of him being horrible is unsubstantiated at this point of the season.


I don't.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

I don't think he was great either, but horrible?


Yes. Has not progressed in 3 seasons here. Still has all the physical tools with no talent. Gets no separation. Bricks for hands. If you don't progress in 3 seasons, you deserve to be ridiculed to the fullest extent.

Notice how I didn't beat up on Crockett for his costly fumble. That is a freshman error. He should learn from it and not let it happen again..especially not in 2 years time.

Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17216 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

even the greatest drop passes


Not like moore, that's been his M.O. on the field the entire time he has been here, drops entirely routine stuff consistently.

Receivers can have lots of different skills and still be successful, some are fast, some are big and strong, some are elusive and sit down at the right spot. Being unable to catch half of the balls thrown at you is not a trait that anyone looks for though.

Truthfully don't think I've ever seen a W.R. like him at these levels that drops as much routine stuff.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:41 pm to
So call it 17 targets where he had catchable balls. How many did he actually catch? I'm gonna bet that's still a pretty horrendous ratio
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:53 pm to
his practice time should be running 5 yard routes while somebody with an arm throws the ball as hard as they can at his head. He can't stop until he catches 20 in a row
Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:16 pm to
Tough crowd I see...

Question: Did people write off Danario and Bud in this manner at this point in their careers?

They had issues with separation and the such as well.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15962 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Question: Did people write off Danario and Bud in this manner at this point in their careers?


Alexander was a 2 star, and his first 2 years we had the likes of Franklin, Maclin, and Perry.

Sasser was a 3 star, and in his first few years we had the likes of Jackson, Kemp, and Moe.

I somewhat understand your point, but he was a higher recruit than both, and unfortunately for him, he's being asked to be a leader early in his career.

Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:37 pm to
Separation isn't his issue. He was getting open. It's drops, that's it really but at this point I don't know how much you can realistically expect him to improve his hands.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:53 pm to
He is terrible and has been for 3 years. He can only catch when there is no pressure to do so. he is the opposite of a gamer.

You cannot have a player like this as your #1 WR.
Posted by Stir of Echoes
SD, LA, OC, and the Inland Empire.
Member since Feb 2015
1052 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:55 pm to
Alligator arms and hands of stone is not a winning combination.

I'm sure he catches everything in practice though...
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Question: Did people write off Danario and Bud in this manner at this point in their careers?


1) You are an idiot if you don't remember Danario being a stud from day 1. He started as a freshman over Maclin.

2) Bud did struggle but got better. Bud was better by now. J'mon is in year 3 and still not improving. Bud was never demanding to be the #1. Bud made some clutch catches. J'mon has not shown the ability to do that. all his catches come in garbage time.
Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:06 pm to
Ok then. I get it.Lol. I see some of our tiger brethren/sisters have some high standards, nothing wrong with that by the way.

One thing I can say is, I am glad to only be a fan of this team and not a player cause we got some tough cookies. Roderick Johnson for FSU did not play very well last night, and I could only imagine the angst from our fans with his performance if he was on our team in year 3.

Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

u are an idiot if you don't remember Danario being a stud from day 1. He started as a freshman over Maclin.



I don't take kindly to name calling. I try and respect everyone's opinion, so please do the same for me.

Danario played ok his first 3 years, lets not make it seem like he was an extreme compliment to Maclin. He had separation issues at times and could only muster up 300 yd receiving seasons. Now that is from my point of view.

Bud had the benefit of a lot talent as well. He was slow and in 2013 dropped a few balls, albeit not to the extent of J'Mon. Even then his progression came in leaps and bounds from 13 to 14. 13 you saw a lot of people on Bud's hip pocket, 14 you saw a guy who you could trust get open and deliver.

I can argue J'Mon's catch on the fade with the corner draped all over him was tough and showed an upward progession from 15-16.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

I don't take kindly to name calling. I try and respect everyone's opinion, so please do the same for me.


No, sally.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Danario played ok his first 3 years, lets not make it seem like he was an extreme compliment to Maclin. He had separation issues at times and could only muster up 300 yd receiving seasons. Now that is from my point of view.


I forgot this part. Danario was a stud from the get go. He was also injured every year from the get go until his senior season when he blew up to the best season in Mizzou history. Danario was 10x than j'mon even as a freshman.

If Danario had been healthy his entire career, he would have been much more prolific stat wise.

As for Bud, even as a senior he couldn't "get open." He was great at positioning and making tough catches.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Supreme Tiger
Member since Sep 2016
642 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:22 pm to
If you want to understand J'Mon Moore, look at Randal Grichuk.

Randal can connect and hit one 430 feet, he can rope a hard liner to the gap. But overall he lacks something between the ears that allows him to predict movement and catalog past experiences at the plate. He looks foolish at times and just isn't a reliable hitter. It's a crapshoot when he's at the plate.

Of course Piscotty or Molina aren't guarantees to get a hit either. MLB hitters succeed 3 out of 10 times at best, but there is just a consistency and level of reliability in players like that. They are much more awake in their minds. They're using their consciousness, not just their physical abilities.

Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:26 pm to
He's right you know


jamons problem isn't his hands, it's between his ears
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