I was wrong about GP

I’m not exactly sure where OP is going here, but I will say this...the fan base’s attitude towards BO now is eerily similar to what it was towards GP at similar times in his tenure. He was a shite coach, would never win, couldn’t recruit, was too loyal to bad asst coaches, made dumb decisions during games. All of it. You could pull some of those post from back in the day and replace GP with BO and nobody would know they weren’t written today. Anyone who won’t acknowledge this is either lying or wasn’t around for it.

At some point you simply have no choice and have to make a switch. We may be approaching that but it’s more fan malaise than wins and losses imo.

The above is why I’m hesitant though. Starting over is not going to be fun, almost assuredly. We aren’t going to bring in some big name, proven winner at the P5 level. Any hire we make will have a pretty large level of gamble involved with it.

Some good self analysis is this...take the mindset you have now. How thoroughly convinced you are BO sucks. Apply it to Pinkel, realize you were either wrong then or would have been. Now, allow for that possibility.

I'm getting tired of the GP comparisons: Pinkle was a good recruiter, a great developer, and a mediocre game manager. His teams were well prepared, and his defenses were well positioned. His biggest failures were an inability to make in game adjustments, and an overweening loyalty to "his" coachs.


When he did lose, and it was quite often early, it was because his teams were overmatched by superior players, or because his game plan did not have enough flexibility for changing circumstances. But he did have a plan, and his players executed it. Indeed, were well coached in the execution. And both fans and administration could see and appreciate it.

It is possible to look good, even respectable, in a loss, and GP always managed that. As his player development took hold, more wins came, but always to the same plan, with the same solid look.


BO in contrast lurchs from one disaster to another, and his coaching tree is a froth of incoming sycophants and outgoing malcontents. Nothing is his fault, and nothing changes. He wins with raw undisciplined talent, and loses with boneheaded decisions. His teams play ugly, and are painful to watch.

His appearance from day one has been the exact opposite of GP. Wins and losses may number the same, but nothing else is.

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I'm getting tired of the GP comparisons: Pinkle was a good recruiter, a great developer, and a mediocre game manager. His teams were well prepared, and his defenses were well positioned. His biggest failures were an inability to make in game adjustments, and an overweening loyalty to "his" coachs.


When he did lose, and it was quite often early, it was because his teams were overmatched by superior players, or because his game plan did not have enough flexibility for changing circumstances. But he did have a plan, and his players executed it. Indeed, were well coached in the execution. And both fans and administration could see and appreciate it.

It is possible to look good, even respectable, in a loss, and GP always managed that. As his player development took hold, more wins came, but always to the same plan, with the same solid look.


BO in contrast lurchs from one disaster to another, and his coaching tree is a froth of incoming sycophants and outgoing malcontents. Nothing is his fault, and nothing changes. He wins with raw undisciplined talent, and loses with boneheaded decisions. His teams play ugly, and are painful to watch.

His appearance from day one has been the exact opposite of GP. Wins and losses may number the same, but nothing else is.

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Gary Pinkel was a head coach at lower level for 5 or more years. Barry Odom on the other hand had ZERO head coach experience at the college level. That is why got to give him more time and the team is not that bad! You are just a spoil brat that want to fire Odom and not give him enough time that any head coach should be given.

I sat in the rain and watched Warren Powers beat Nebraska.

There were no boards like this early in GPs tenure, so much of what you say about fans is speculation. But I know what I saw, and what I see.

But you go ahead and revel in the mediocrity you see as Missouri's due.

He went 5-6 in his 4th.

In year 4 he went 5-6, lost to Troy at home and had a 5 game losing streak that concluded with getting blown out by Kansas.

The howls were LOUD. Deafening. Every bit what they are now, possibly more.

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In year 4 he went 5-6, lost to Troy at home and had a 5 game losing streak that concluded with getting blown out by Kansas.

The howls were LOUD. Deafening. Every bit what they are now, possibly more.

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Just wait till Odom wins 5 or 6 games next year with some random QB, a garbage pass defense for the 4th straight year, and special teams that make you cry.

It will be quite loud.

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I was wrong about GP

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TrueLefty

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You're usually always wrong....

So, we hired a coach without proper experience for the job. I agree. Didn’t like the hire from day one. He had one year of P5 coordinator experience and was totally unprepared to take ovef as a head coach in SEC. How does that earn him more time than anybody else? Two wrongs don’t make a right. Let’s not continue to compound this mistake and dig the program even further into the ground.