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How long would it take the new coach to turn around Hoops program?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 8:58 pm
Assuming a quality hire of course. In theory, it shouldn't take as long as football. 2-3 years reasonable with the current roster?
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:05 pm to JesusQuintana
MSU is in year 2. The next Mizzou coach if he can recruit well should be able to do the same.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:07 pm to wubilli
Just think. We could of had Howland, Martin, Huggins....
Why Alden? Why???
Why Alden? Why???
Posted on 1/25/17 at 9:12 pm to JesusQuintana
Go back further and add Self and Cal.
Neither would still be here but the hoops program would be in a better place.
Can add Painter to that as well.
Neither would still be here but the hoops program would be in a better place.
Can add Painter to that as well.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:33 pm to JesusQuintana
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Assuming a quality hire of course. In theory, it shouldn't take as long as football. 2-3 years reasonable with the current roster?
Typically, I think you're right. I think KA has soooooo buried this program though that it may take even longer. This class coming in is shot so year 1 you can forget about. Year 2, legit recruits will be true freshmen. We never recruited 1 and done talent, so a new coach won't be able to bring that in given where the program now is. Year 3 is probably, realistically, the earliest I would expect .500 or better.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:08 am to JesusQuintana
It's going to be awhile. This program is on life support.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:53 am to reedus23
Roberts looks really good assuming the new coach could hang onto him.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 7:03 am to JesusQuintana
I think by year 2 we could see real progress.
I am assuming that after the season 1-2 players transfer. That would leave Roberts and 3-4 open scholarships. 1 or 2 should be grad transfers. The other 1-2 probably need to be 4 year transfers.
That will open up 2018 where there is s lot of regional talent.
By year 2 the players here now would be upperclassmen, the transfers would help, as well as the 2018 recruits.
I am assuming that after the season 1-2 players transfer. That would leave Roberts and 3-4 open scholarships. 1 or 2 should be grad transfers. The other 1-2 probably need to be 4 year transfers.
That will open up 2018 where there is s lot of regional talent.
By year 2 the players here now would be upperclassmen, the transfers would help, as well as the 2018 recruits.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 8:12 am to JesusQuintana
Right
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:01 am to JesusQuintana
Year 1 we will be .500 year 2 NIT
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:20 am to JAGsports
I see a slow climb even with a good coach. Decent recruits will have to see some winning to want to come to Mizzou. 4-5 years before the team is "Pretty good."
Unfortunately, that's about the time the "good coach" will move on.
Unfortunately, that's about the time the "good coach" will move on.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:26 am to Literalist
No way look at how SLU is recruiting. It's not taking Ford 4-5 years for good recruits to pay attention.
If Mizzou hires a good coach, he will be able to recruit. Good players will be available immediately.
If Mizzou hires a good coach, he will be able to recruit. Good players will be available immediately.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:34 am to JesusQuintana
What does "turn around" mean?
You need about 4-5 years to know whether a football coach is going to succeed (even if it hasn't actually happened yet). Basketball takes half as long.
After two years you should know if you've got a good or bad basketball coach.
You need about 4-5 years to know whether a football coach is going to succeed (even if it hasn't actually happened yet). Basketball takes half as long.
After two years you should know if you've got a good or bad basketball coach.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:23 pm to spytiger
quote:yep. If it means going to the dance it could be awhile. You have to get a good class and that's not happening until next year if you are being very optimistic. Then they have to show up on campus and adapt to college and learn how to play. Then the next year they could be ok. So 2020 if things go VERRRRRY well. Unless we get a 6'11" one and done.
What does "turn around" mean?
It took Martin 4 years to get to the NIT at SC, he's now in year 5 and may make the dance
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:47 pm to MIZ_COU
If the coach can recruit Missouri, could be back in the NCAA tournament as early as 3 or 4 seasons.
2018 and 2019 have really good talent in Missouri. Pair players like Ramey, Watson, Bishop, Leech, & Mckinney together with a veteran or 2. That's a good team.
2018 and 2019 have really good talent in Missouri. Pair players like Ramey, Watson, Bishop, Leech, & Mckinney together with a veteran or 2. That's a good team.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 1:57 pm to wubilli
You forgot hellems. He is blowing up faster than any other recruit in the state. Scored 47 the other night for Chaminade, something Tatum never did.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:02 pm to mizslu314
Yea you can add Hellems, Davis, Thatch, Lathon, and Gordon in those classes.
All are P5 level of players.
None are 1 and done, so could build for a fun run together.
All are P5 level of players.
None are 1 and done, so could build for a fun run together.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 2:05 pm to wubilli
For Mizzou, Thatch, Gordon, and Ramey will be almost impossible. Especially Thatch and Gordon.
But the rest are all up in the air, and have a fair shot at.
But the rest are all up in the air, and have a fair shot at.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:28 pm to JesusQuintana
1.5, assuming current roster...which isn't a good assumption at this point.
But Phillips and Puryear senior year, I could see NCAA tournament with a good coach.
But Phillips and Puryear senior year, I could see NCAA tournament with a good coach.
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:18 pm to JesusQuintana
A good coach that can recruit?
Two years.
Combination of the average talent we have now and decent talent that is recruited, it wouldn't take long.
Anderson should be fired ASAP though. We're 5-14, I mean are you fricking kidding, 5-14?!
Two years.
Combination of the average talent we have now and decent talent that is recruited, it wouldn't take long.
Anderson should be fired ASAP though. We're 5-14, I mean are you fricking kidding, 5-14?!
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