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Posted on 11/5/22 at 2:49 pm
Posted by surgicalvenom
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Posted on 11/5/22 at 2:49 pm
Tho we like to believe coaches at this level have it figured out, the numbers don't bear that.

66% of all new coaches hired in 2018 were fired in 3 years. That means in reality, only 33% of coaches have it figured out. And that doesn't include ridiculous contracts where the HC can't be fired, i.e. Jimbo.

A school only has a 33% chance of finding a long term coach. So if you are critical of Drink, you have a 66% chance of being correct.

Can this change, yes. A mediocre coach can hire assistants that elevate him. Drink recruits the groceries, the assistants cook. JMHI
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
6819 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 5:41 pm to
Then there's Lance Liepold. Okie Light craters for the Jayhawks.
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1132 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 8:33 pm to
I get your point, but there is also random chance.
If Colorado hadn't been given a 5th down, Bob Stull might have turned the corner at Mizzou. He had a good staff, and that kind of win can build confidence of players and coaches, and gain interest of recruits and boosters.
Plus, that stat could be showing that it is a bad choice to fire many coaches after only 3 years.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/5/22 at 8:54 pm to
Stability is almost always better than instability.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5386 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:29 pm to
With all this money flowing,no school has to be patient with a coach. This is why the quick turnover and unqualified HCs get jobs they aren't ready for. Thing is, it's just going to get worse. With NIL donations, schools have more pressure to field successful programs which means gambling on even more unqualified HCs.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:14 pm to
Just stay the course. The coaching carousel is almost always a terrible place to be.
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1132 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:38 pm to
It's like dating. Every woman you have interest in is a possible trainwreck, so when you get one that isn't crazy, sometimes smarter to hold on to her than take a chance.
Posted by surgicalvenom
Omaha
Member since Jan 2014
5386 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:09 pm to
Difference is no one is donating money to you to dump the girlfriend. In today's CFB money is king. Schools aren't gambling on coaches for the hell of it. Wins make boosters happy, happy boosters dig deeper. Both to the AD and the NIL collective. I feel we are moving to the world of disposable coaches and with the transfer portal, disposable players. College BB is already there.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 11/6/22 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

The coaching carousel is almost always a terrible place to be.


Florida isn’t ecstatic about Napier.
Arkansas is trending towards upset with Pittman.
A&M is growing to detest Jimbo.
Auburn just fired Harsin.

There’s just no guarantee of anything in hiring a coach.
Posted by deputyfife
Member since Dec 2013
1132 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:05 pm to
That is the conventional wisdom projection, sure. But doesn't mean it is the better way.
Remember when we were told that credit ratings didn't matter, and you should go ahead and hold BBB- mortgage bonds? Ginnie Mae and Freddie Mac would protect you anyway, right?
I'm betting the smarter money would be to stay the course. If you get a Kentucky Stoops, not too bad. Though 8-9 wins is probably his ceiling. But you could get a Pinkel.
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