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re: Fuller Rumors: NCAA Charges Coming
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:27 pm to the808bass
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:27 pm to the808bass
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Amazing citations.
In fairness, you left out part of the citations. It was a friend was told by a friend who told him. I don't mean to pile on and I know it sounds like I am, but I don't think it's fair either to call someone out to tell us who it is he's getting the info from. Just let us know...it's rumor.
808, maybe you could let us know (though I think it's implied in what you've already said), was this information gained simply from other message boards?
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Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:29 pm to reedus23
No. It was a text conversation.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:29 pm to reedus23
I think with the anonymous internet posting format though that's where the rumor stuff becomes literally impossible to distinguish from trolling or biased attempts to stir something for some reason and the like. You definitely don't have to say "this is what I heard from John P. Smith, assistant athletic director for marketing" or any such stuff. But there's a middle ground there to me that is kinda like the examples I gave above.
In the Quin/Kleiza girlfriend example I didn't name any names just that "a friend of mine said they heard from a person in the AD." That's really broad. Could be anybody. The specific source is nowhere near identifiable, but it gives you all at least some idea where I claim to have gotten it from.
I guess with posts like 808's that's all I'd ask if possible. Anything broad like that that you can share 808 - did you catch these whiffs from within the university, perhaps someone who says the talk to people in the AD, maybe somebody who knows someone at the NCAA, etc. There's ways to pair it down a bit without being so specific that you are anywhere close to outing the exact identity of the source. Again, you certainly don't have to and reedus what you describe is how it mostly goes in practice on the interwebs message boards these days. I'm just saying I'm more likely to put more stock in those sorts of posts where there's some sort of source chain attached, and sometimes posters do provide it.
In the Quin/Kleiza girlfriend example I didn't name any names just that "a friend of mine said they heard from a person in the AD." That's really broad. Could be anybody. The specific source is nowhere near identifiable, but it gives you all at least some idea where I claim to have gotten it from.
I guess with posts like 808's that's all I'd ask if possible. Anything broad like that that you can share 808 - did you catch these whiffs from within the university, perhaps someone who says the talk to people in the AD, maybe somebody who knows someone at the NCAA, etc. There's ways to pair it down a bit without being so specific that you are anywhere close to outing the exact identity of the source. Again, you certainly don't have to and reedus what you describe is how it mostly goes in practice on the interwebs message boards these days. I'm just saying I'm more likely to put more stock in those sorts of posts where there's some sort of source chain attached, and sometimes posters do provide it.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:32 pm to the808bass
So you heard it from a text from a friend who heard it from someone who has a relationship with the university? That's a start and bumps the credibility I'll give you up a notch just with that alone. That's allz I be sayin'. Without even that much its impossible to sort yours from the various other iterations of rumors on the other websites. So thanks for the info. 
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:34 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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you heard it from a text from a friend who heard it from someone who has a relationship with the university?
Nailed it.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:36 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
all I need to hear is "inside source", because that means the person who "let it leak" either knows what's happening or has an ulterior motive.. agenda, one of the two. or you could just be completely making it all up and reposting the tb rumor you claim not to be posting.
doesn't really matter, it will either be true or it won't be, and all this "name names" smaks of a "my sources are better than your sources" type of pissing contest that nobody else really gives 2 shitx about.
remember when Odom was the "name being thrown around" for the job and we had people bent enough to say 'it can't be true if Gabe said it'..
lol, internet rumor mongering is a profession now I suppose, but only the people doing it think it's worthy of any respect.
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:37 pm to reedus23
Rumors are just that. And like all rumors, the outcome will be known soon enough. If a poster like 808 or ATX shared something, I tend to believe it's what they have heard and believe based on their posting record. Not sure either of them are as reliable as Kilgore though.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:42 pm to semotruman
What if Kilgore is my source?
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:43 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
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That's a start and bumps the credibility I'll give you up a notch just with that alone.
Let's remember though, it's still a rumor. I'm hoping nothing comes of it personally. And I'd say, even if it's true, I don't see how it's a knock on KA because I'd assume whatever it involves happened under Haith's watch. So personally, I never took it as a pro-KA vs. anti-KA type of issue.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:44 pm to Jagd Tiger
Not at all meant to be a pissing contest. More like I, and I would imagine most who take the time to enter this and similar threads, are genuinely interested in whether the rumored event is happening and want to sort out if it is. It helps a lot in that regard to know if the poster is serious enough about what they are saying to even hint at where they are getting it from. Like I mentioned in one of the earlier posts above, Gabe on PM has both been letting these rumors float but also said there are rumors that Fuller isn't being forced out and that the team has not been told anything about Fuller leaving. So in trying to sort out what the hell chatter has weight and what doesn't its helpful to get a sense where stuff is coming from. That's all.
One possible answer for example would be that perhaps some university folks who have talked to the Mizzou compliance office are beginning to circulate chatter that NCAA charges are coming and Fuller will have to be let go, but that it either hasn't reached KA or if it has, KA and Fuller have not yet formally addressed the team about it. Dunno, but there's not much other point in doing a thread about the rumor other than to try to piece them together into WTF might be going on.
One possible answer for example would be that perhaps some university folks who have talked to the Mizzou compliance office are beginning to circulate chatter that NCAA charges are coming and Fuller will have to be let go, but that it either hasn't reached KA or if it has, KA and Fuller have not yet formally addressed the team about it. Dunno, but there's not much other point in doing a thread about the rumor other than to try to piece them together into WTF might be going on.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:45 pm to semotruman
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Not sure either of them are as reliable as Kilgore though.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:49 pm to everytrueson
Best TB poster after Crudup.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:50 pm to reedus23
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And I'd say, even if it's true, I don't see how it's a knock on KA because I'd assume whatever it involves happened under Haith's watch. So personally, I never took it as a pro-KA vs. anti-KA type of issue.
Since I'm the one chirping about sources I'll be blunt on where I was going on that. A poster going by the handle of saul over on PowerMizzou posted a rumor wherein he said Fuller was being forced out, that J3, Teki and Namon are all talking transfer, and that Gant wants to stay but has other issues that might make staying difficult. It was quite a mouthful and a bombshell - and doesn't completely mesh necessarily either with the rumor form that 808 offers up or with the "team hasn't been told anything about Fuller leaving" stuff that Gabe DeArmond said.
But the saul poster who said that also admitted very openly to having been against the KA hire and criticized the lack of direction in the program and such in the same thread. So a person like that is pretty much admitting they'd like to see a coaching change made, and it makes you wonder whether a "the sky is falling!" type rumor from them is more tied to them having an agenda of wanting to rally opposition to KA.
That's a large part of why I was pressing you so much on this 808. The Fuller thing is clearly floating around CoMo in several different forms of rumor and I'm trying to get some sense of where the different forms of smoke are coming from. The bit of backstory you gave already gives it more credibility than anything the saul poster offered up. So thanks.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:50 pm to everytrueson
ATX, while you're here, I've been hoping you'd chime in with your thoughts on the team currently. I know I've been harsh on them and I need a rational mind to help straighten me out and see the good that is coming. Believe it or not, I do wish for the best with the basketball program, but I truly have reached the point I would make the drive for a softball game but not a basketball game.
I will say the recent commitment has peeked my interest, more so because he actually fills a position of need more than because of a flashy name. I can see the potential with some of the youngsters, but they all seem to offer the same thing, meaning what they don't offer is the same as well, which results in big holes in the team. I think Phillips helps to eliminate one of those holes. What's your thoughts?
I will say the recent commitment has peeked my interest, more so because he actually fills a position of need more than because of a flashy name. I can see the potential with some of the youngsters, but they all seem to offer the same thing, meaning what they don't offer is the same as well, which results in big holes in the team. I think Phillips helps to eliminate one of those holes. What's your thoughts?
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:51 pm to the808bass
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What if Kilgore is my source?
Credibility through the roof. Through. The. Roof.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:52 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Just FWIW, I've never been on Power Mizzou in my life. Not even on a trial free membership.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:57 pm to the808bass
Well no matter what happens, this rumor stuff is way more entertaining than the product and coaching on the floor....
This post was edited on 1/4/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:58 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
Not a member over at PM, but I've read and seen the rumors about a mass exodus. I'm not buying into it. I wouldn't be surprised if, after the end of the year, we have a transfer or two, but that's no different than any other year. Frankly, I don't even know if it's a good thing for the freshman class to carry through for 4 years with five guys in it. That leaves 8 spots for the other 3 years combined. A better balance is probably preferred in the long run.
I seriously doubt J3 is going anywhere. KA has seemed to have singled him out in saying it is HIS team. He ain't leaving. I doubt Teki goes anywhere. I'm sure he hates the losing but he's been given a lot of free reign with his play. Many other schools would have sat him with some of the forced shots he puts up. Ya just never know with Wright, but his tweets all still seem upbeat, though he did talk a lot about how he missed California when he went home. Gant, I have no idea.
I seriously doubt J3 is going anywhere. KA has seemed to have singled him out in saying it is HIS team. He ain't leaving. I doubt Teki goes anywhere. I'm sure he hates the losing but he's been given a lot of free reign with his play. Many other schools would have sat him with some of the forced shots he puts up. Ya just never know with Wright, but his tweets all still seem upbeat, though he did talk a lot about how he missed California when he went home. Gant, I have no idea.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 1:58 pm to reedus23
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say the recent commitment has peeked my interest, more so because he actually fills a position of need more than because of a flashy name.
As this thread can't really be derailed, I'd like to agree. There does seem to be a plan to address team needs with recruits that we never saw with Haith. Haith just wanted stars or reps. There was no plan to fit them together as a team. That approach seems to have been thankfully discarded.
Posted on 1/4/15 at 2:00 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
yea, clearly some people would enjoy being the "bearer of bad news" in this regard, hence my "ulterior motive" reference.. still, regardless of motive, the news is either true or it isn't. I understand you wanting more info, not less, can't fault you for that.
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