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re: Fire Josh Henson and A.J. Ricker.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:33 am to MIZ_COU
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:33 am to MIZ_COU
I could be wrong, but I believe a large part of the issue with Mauk is mental, and a conflict between the coaching of his dad and the staff. I think there is a huge difference between what his dad taught him as a kid and then a high school player, and what the staff wants from him now. And dad is still very involved. I think that makes him difficult to coach. I don't k is this, it's just my opinion.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:46 am to semotruman
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I could be wrong, but I believe a large part of the issue with Mauk is mental, and a conflict between the coaching of his dad and the staff. I think there is a huge difference between what his dad taught him as a kid and then a high school player, and what the staff wants from him now. And dad is still very involved. I think that makes him difficult to coach. I don't k is this, it's just my opinion.
His brother is a big part of the equation. He is running a QB camp and/or doing personal coaching. He is coaching MM in the off-season. MM has been asked if he would seek outside help. He took the question as offensive. He would never tutor under a QB guru, just his brother.
MM has plateaued.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 11:59 am to Mizzou Mule
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He took the question as offensive. He would never tutor under a QB guru, just his brother.
MM has plateaued.
well sort of, didn't he go to the Manning camp again this last summer? I know that's more to work as a counselor, than as a student of the game.
Either way, Mauk is playing the position that requires more mental cognition than about any of any team sport, and Mauk is clearly no high IQ genius, he may simply have reached the mental limit of his game. That's one reason I always suspected Printz may actually surpass him, and he still might, just not at Mizzou.
I doubt his dad is over involved since he's busy fighting cancer if not coaching HS, but I certainly agree, without a different level of instruction, Mauk has basically progressed about as far as he's going to.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 5:34 pm to Jagd Tiger
Yeah I really would have liked to at least have seen Printz, although some of the GA guys that saw him in HS said he was OK not great
Posted on 9/20/15 at 7:27 pm to MIZ_COU
He couldn't beat out Hutson Mason who was absolutely uninspiring for Georgia last year.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:55 am to the808bass
The root of the problem is no running game.
With Hansbrough out, it's a series of promoted backups. Ish looks better but nothing to rave about. None are breaking tackles and many times the holes arent' there.
I'm not going to say they're bad. I believe they have the needed athleticism. But Boehm is clearly not 100%. We have a former Guard playing Tackle and a former Tackle playing Guard. I don't think they are comfortable with schemes and technique.
Let's put it this way. Everyone raves at how Brothers doesn't have to think about it, he just reacts. Our OL isn't reacting, they are thinking about it. Because they haven't gotten to that next level, it's keeping them from being more physical.
This could clearly fall on Ricker's shoulders as a teacher. Not sure what Illinois ran, but we're different, using the best 5 instead of the traditional only Guards, only Tackles.
But without a running game, Mauk becomes predictable.
Also doesn't help that the WRs are very much like the OL. We have the athletes, but they are still thinking about things instead of just reacting.
Have you noticed how bad the WRs are at blocking? That's because they are still learning to 'play catch' then to react to blocking.
With Hansbrough out, it's a series of promoted backups. Ish looks better but nothing to rave about. None are breaking tackles and many times the holes arent' there.
I'm not going to say they're bad. I believe they have the needed athleticism. But Boehm is clearly not 100%. We have a former Guard playing Tackle and a former Tackle playing Guard. I don't think they are comfortable with schemes and technique.
Let's put it this way. Everyone raves at how Brothers doesn't have to think about it, he just reacts. Our OL isn't reacting, they are thinking about it. Because they haven't gotten to that next level, it's keeping them from being more physical.
This could clearly fall on Ricker's shoulders as a teacher. Not sure what Illinois ran, but we're different, using the best 5 instead of the traditional only Guards, only Tackles.
But without a running game, Mauk becomes predictable.
Also doesn't help that the WRs are very much like the OL. We have the athletes, but they are still thinking about things instead of just reacting.
Have you noticed how bad the WRs are at blocking? That's because they are still learning to 'play catch' then to react to blocking.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:55 am to the808bass
The root of the problem is no running game.
With Hansbrough out, it's a series of promoted backups. Ish looks better but nothing to rave about. None are breaking tackles and many times the holes arent' there.
I'm not going to say the OL is bad. I believe they have the needed athleticism. But Boehm is clearly not 100%. We have a former Guard playing Tackle and a former Tackle playing Guard. I don't think they are comfortable with schemes and technique.
Let's put it this way. Everyone raves at how Brothers doesn't have to think about it, he just reacts. Our OL isn't reacting, they are thinking about it. Because they haven't gotten to that next level, it's keeping them from being more physical.
This could clearly fall on Ricker's shoulders as a teacher. Not sure what Illinois ran, but we're different, using the best 5 instead of the traditional only Guards, only Tackles.
But without a running game, Mauk becomes predictable.
Also doesn't help that the WRs are very much like the OL. We have the athletes, but they are still thinking about things instead of just reacting.
Have you noticed how bad the WRs are at blocking? That's because they are still learning to 'play catch' then to react to blocking.
With Hansbrough out, it's a series of promoted backups. Ish looks better but nothing to rave about. None are breaking tackles and many times the holes arent' there.
I'm not going to say the OL is bad. I believe they have the needed athleticism. But Boehm is clearly not 100%. We have a former Guard playing Tackle and a former Tackle playing Guard. I don't think they are comfortable with schemes and technique.
Let's put it this way. Everyone raves at how Brothers doesn't have to think about it, he just reacts. Our OL isn't reacting, they are thinking about it. Because they haven't gotten to that next level, it's keeping them from being more physical.
This could clearly fall on Ricker's shoulders as a teacher. Not sure what Illinois ran, but we're different, using the best 5 instead of the traditional only Guards, only Tackles.
But without a running game, Mauk becomes predictable.
Also doesn't help that the WRs are very much like the OL. We have the athletes, but they are still thinking about things instead of just reacting.
Have you noticed how bad the WRs are at blocking? That's because they are still learning to 'play catch' then to react to blocking.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 8:58 am
Posted on 9/21/15 at 9:12 am to Stlox
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Also doesn't help that the WRs are very much like the OL. We have the athletes, but they are still thinking about things instead of just reacting.
Have you noticed how bad the WRs are at blocking? That's because they are still learning to 'play catch' then to react to blocking.
Not to mention...the 2 primary backup WR didn't play after the accident friday afternoon. Pretty big when you practice with them all week and they don't play.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 12:00 pm to MIZ_COU
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Yeah I really would have liked to at least have seen Printz, although some of the GA guys that saw him in HS said he was OK not great
I saw Printz play a game in HS, he clearly needed work but he's much closer to being a "Lock" than a "Mauk", that is he can stand up in front of the pocket, see his receivers and throw to them. Being a "project" QB at Mizzou has been fairly hit or miss, we haven't really seen a QB come in and make marginal improvement since Brad Smith. Printz led the QBs in completion in numerous scrimmages, it wasn't an accident that he could just play and put up better numbers than Mauk.
Yost was never fit for more than a recruiting coordinator job, maybe Hill is a decent QB coach, but it's been hard to see results to back that up. Once again Pinkels overestimating his own ability to make other "coaches" something they're not is one of his glaring weaknesses. Still, it's not clear if their is a QB coach in the country that can make Mauk better than he is right now.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 9/28/15 at 1:18 pm to Jagd Tiger
What bout this as a solution:
Fire Henson and Ricker
Pay Christensen to leave A&M to be OC/OL Coach
He brings with him the Air Raid with normal OL splits like A&M.
We return to the Daniels/Maclin offensive production days.
Fire Henson and Ricker
Pay Christensen to leave A&M to be OC/OL Coach
He brings with him the Air Raid with normal OL splits like A&M.
We return to the Daniels/Maclin offensive production days.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 1:37 pm to surgicalvenom
Christensen is still an Oline coach, and w/out Chase D. I'm not sure he would have even gotten a sniff from Wyoming. I'd imagine he's doing a pretty fair job for Sumlin, based on results.
Either way, fans are continually OVERESTIMATING the problems w/ the Oline, the WR group and the RB's,, (namely Whitter) and not realizing the problem is more with the QB not being able to run the plays.
You may think it doesn't matter to the Oline that Mauk rolls out of the pocket before the pocket even breaks down, but I can assure you it does matter. They are NOT stupid, just dumb brutes told to do a job and not caring about results. Once Mauk rolls out, their work becomes much harder and in most cases impossible, if you think it's not demoralizing to the Oline to see the QB roll out because he's afraid of a shadow from a blade of grass, you are DEAD WRONG.
When Lock is in the reason the team "looks" better is because they are better. The Oline knows they aren't wasting their effort in setting up the pocket, the receivers know the ball will be coming where they are going to be, not generally in the area of where they were. The team looks like they have more pep in their step because THEY DO.
The QB has more impact than any position in the game, but many people just don't understand the complexity of why.
Either way, fans are continually OVERESTIMATING the problems w/ the Oline, the WR group and the RB's,, (namely Whitter) and not realizing the problem is more with the QB not being able to run the plays.
You may think it doesn't matter to the Oline that Mauk rolls out of the pocket before the pocket even breaks down, but I can assure you it does matter. They are NOT stupid, just dumb brutes told to do a job and not caring about results. Once Mauk rolls out, their work becomes much harder and in most cases impossible, if you think it's not demoralizing to the Oline to see the QB roll out because he's afraid of a shadow from a blade of grass, you are DEAD WRONG.
When Lock is in the reason the team "looks" better is because they are better. The Oline knows they aren't wasting their effort in setting up the pocket, the receivers know the ball will be coming where they are going to be, not generally in the area of where they were. The team looks like they have more pep in their step because THEY DO.
The QB has more impact than any position in the game, but many people just don't understand the complexity of why.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:02 pm to Jagd Tiger
I agree with everything you say.
That's the genius of a Christensen hire. The Air Raid with normal splits requires 2 things:
Very good tackle play as the OL is in normal splits so the DE's are not split out extra wide.
A strong armed QB with a quick release, also because of the normal splits. This means Lock starts.
That's the genius of a Christensen hire. The Air Raid with normal splits requires 2 things:
Very good tackle play as the OL is in normal splits so the DE's are not split out extra wide.
A strong armed QB with a quick release, also because of the normal splits. This means Lock starts.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 2:37 pm to surgicalvenom
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A strong armed QB with a quick release, also because of the normal splits. This means Lock starts.
Yea that is what I would like to see too. Remember DE's can line up where ever they want, if you have great nose tackles and inside LB's that can handle multiple gaps, but either way I've read DC only helps coordinate the run game for Sumlin. I was never impressed with the endless bubble screens when he ran the O here, then again Pinkel seems to love that play more than life itself. soo...
the Aggies also have at least 5 or 6, four star OL's on their team and are executing a lot of athletic trap blocking, at least they did with Kingsbury, I haven't watched them that much lately but I don't see why that would change. Mizzou and Aggie are two fairly different programs.
Anyway I stand by the assertion that if we have a QB actually executing what we are trying to do, the entire offense suddenly looks much better and the "fire Ricker" talk will disappear about as quickly as it started.
This post was edited on 9/28/15 at 2:41 pm
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