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Alabama was better, but we lost the SECCG because we were outcoached

Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:06 am
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:06 am
period.
Posted by everytrueson
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2012
5891 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:17 am to
Go on.....
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:24 am to

Well Bama does have more talent at nearly every position, so that would include coaching staff.

Posted by countrygrammar
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
394 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:44 am to
Maybe, but if Pinkel and his staff were to switch roles with Alabama coaches and Saban and his staff were coaching Missouri I still think we lose. It may be closer than the box score of this past game but I still think we would lose.


Posted by 50CalMG
The Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2012
476 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:34 pm to
outcoached and outplayed. That is generally the definition of a blowout loss. (water is wet, etc etc)
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
9450 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 2:05 pm to
Great analysis, killz.
Posted by MIZ_COU
I'm right here
Member since Oct 2013
13771 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:41 pm to
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Great analysis, killz.


Kiffen > Henson

but mostly they were just a lot deeper with big fast athletes
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:21 pm to
quote:


Kiffen > Henson

but mostly they were just a lot deeper with big fast athletes



yea it's just a given we aren't going to beat any of the real good teams by "out scheming" them and Pinkels basic concept to not beat yourself with mistakes is fine and all but if you run into a team of 5 star talent who also executes that same concept,,,

then what?


Posted by JoeMoTiger
KC Area
Member since Nov 2013
2677 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:59 pm to
42-13 or whatever the score was.
Posted by tobythetiger
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
428 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:42 pm to
Likely. Bama does have the best HC and staff in CFB, after all.
Posted by TrueMizzou
Member since Jan 2014
234 posts
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:59 pm to
Better coaching would have led to a two-touchdown loss. There's no way Mizzou could match the horses Bama had on the field.

GP has a gift for getting teams to their ceiling, but Bama's ceiling is still much higher than ours, and Saban's teams live there as well. So it goes...
Posted by UncleTupelo
Johns Creek, GA
Member since Jan 2013
186 posts
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:37 am to
Here's the way I see Coach P's ability and as it relates to the past, others and recruiting;

When it comes to in-game coaching; In the past two years, I've seen monumental strides in comparison to years past. Wins on the road at Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee and A&M probably wouldn't have happened before. Road wins with slight leads, tied or down going into the half was not in the cards prior to the '13 and '14 seasons so he, or his staff, Henson and Steckel are noticing the opposing teams tendencies and making preemptive adjustments accordingly... I personally think it's the latter. No way was that happening before.

That being said, coaching in the SEC is the gold standard in CFB... From the top all the way down to the GA handing out water bottles during TO's, there really are no better staffs in the country. Point being is that HCGP has surrounded himself with good personnel and there are still three to four staffs in the conference that are better... Nick Saben's being one of them.

Recruiting is the fundamental facet where HCGP has to do better and capitalize on our recent success. Other than a shift in game plan from Alabama's O in the first series, I saw nothing from Saturday's game to suggest that there was a huge disparity in coaching other than recruiting. The difference of quality of player on the field for both teams was glaringly obvious. The bams just had bigger, faster and stronger Jimmies. There is a lot to be said for finding the "needle in the haystack" at certain skill positions and developing them in to first round talent, but complimenting them with two handfuls of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round talent would allow us to take the next step... just my two cents.
Posted by msully
Nashville
Member since Aug 2011
1050 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:26 am to
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mizzoukillsAlabama was better, but we lost the SECCG because we were outcoachedperiod.


At the end of the 1st Quarter your coach knew your players were not going to win , the difference in the SEC West and EAST . The east is in a down cycle and will build back up. But it will take a few more years to get to where The Gators and The Vols used to be . Ga will be better also. How will your team fair when that happens ? And it will happen .
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:38 am to
We will be fine. We obviously won't win the east every year like we have the last 2 years, but we will compete for it more times than not and will win it on occasion. Frankly, while the defense was stellar, this might have been the worst Mizzou offense in over a decade and the fact that Mizzou could win the east when Mizzou was down (forget whether the rest of the east was down) should give others some idea.

Most Mizzou fans, prior to the season, would have told you this team was no where near past teams. We usually do have a let down the year we break in a new QB. The fact that we were able to win the east in one of those down years for us speaks volumes and tells me that even when the east is stronger, a stronger Mizzou team will compete just fine in it.
Posted by mizslu314
Dirty STL
Member since Sep 2013
15962 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:39 am to
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this might have been the worst Mizzou offense in over a decade
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