The apologists are what’s wrong with MSU athletics.

While I agree they are part of the problem it is not all of the problem. It takes money to do this shite and our fanbase is smaller than other SEC schools as well as our budget. We would have to put up a lot of coin to dismiss the staff this year as they probably should be. then drop a lot of coin for a new staff. i just dont think the money is there and we were gonna get lucky if Rutgers wanted him but alas they did not.

Man.. You guys are letting a 6-6 season blind you. He is absolutely raising the bar. Go to your AD board and just read.

- 1st ever signed 5 star OLman. Do you know why we got Lashley from you? Mullen. It's known he gave up on recruits and walked away from that one.

- Do you know why you don't have WRs? Mullen. He had a QB and the #1 team for 5 weeks and he couldn't recruit wrs. As a result, you dropped from passing it with Dak for 3,800 yards to not passing it but for 1750.

Those 2 things are the issue for you right now. And that's left over from Mullen era. Now you are going to say.. "but we had a few NFL OL". And I'm going to say, not for Moorhead. Those guys were horrible at pass blocking before Moorhead got there.

Now you have a 5 star OT, a 4 Star OT, and I think you are going to end up with 2 more 4 star OGs.

Now you need some WRs. He has developed Mitchell. But Mitchell is not enough.

When you went #1, it was because you could run with a QB and a RB because you could pass it.

Look at it from the NCAA stat book. Ranked 21st and 22nd.


You may have wanted and easy fix, but Ms ST has not been what you want it to be since that #1 year due to inconsistencies in recruiting.

For proof of that:
- The very next year you drop from 21st in rushing to 100th. Roster issue. That's recruiting.

- He fixed the running issue, but failed the WR and the QB recruiting... so the next year you ran it effectively, but could not pass it. dropped from 19th to 89th. That's recruiting.


- And the biggest proof of all was the build up of the defense last year that's all gone this year left with playing freshmen.

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The return on your money over the past decade is damn well GREAT.

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I think so too

We have the cheapest fans in the SEC. We want to live in the CFB Playoff District but we won't pay the rent

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I'm actually surprised we don't spend more than others on other sports recruiting since we have Women's Basketball and Baseball factored into.

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Good point.

I bet we let basketball and baseball camps pay for a lot of stuff that doesn't get itemized