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Posted on 10/26/19 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 10/26/19 at 3:24 pm
Let's hypothetically we still had Dan or another coach that was able to coach up this team and guide us through these suspensionsm. What would y'all want from a play calling perspective differently in offense and defense that would maximize the talent on this team?
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Posted on 10/26/19 at 3:29 pm to yatesdog38
Also without Joe you would have to be working with no zuber, no Timmy Stevens and no Garrett Shrader.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 4:28 pm to yatesdog38
Like Stevens makes a difference. Like Strader was even on the radar to play to play this yr. when Moosehead seemed to believe that Stevens was qb from heaven.
Not sure what I would do as a coach at this point other than keep Strader at QB. Secondly, I would hand over the offensive play calling to an OC and become a head coach rather than the head assistant.
Secondly, the offensive line is a big part of the problem as the protection given the qb is lacking.
I don't see Moosehead on the sidelines as a protector of the team, little emotion, no arguing with the ref's etc. A team needs to see the head fights for them. In the game today, A&M, on the call of the interception when our player caught the ball on the ground and ruled as an interception the coach should have gone ballistic, but he showed zero emotion.
And on a different subject. Today, after the TD with a minute left he goes for two points, last game at the end he goes for a field goal, and the game before another game ending two point attempt. Is that when he starts thinking and coaching? When the game is in the books? I don't get it.
He's a assistant coach, no better. Head coach, been there, done that, hasn't he!
Mullen? take him back in a New York second. At least he showed emotion on the sidelines, not some stoic statue handing his little card of plays to call.
Not sure what I would do as a coach at this point other than keep Strader at QB. Secondly, I would hand over the offensive play calling to an OC and become a head coach rather than the head assistant.
Secondly, the offensive line is a big part of the problem as the protection given the qb is lacking.
I don't see Moosehead on the sidelines as a protector of the team, little emotion, no arguing with the ref's etc. A team needs to see the head fights for them. In the game today, A&M, on the call of the interception when our player caught the ball on the ground and ruled as an interception the coach should have gone ballistic, but he showed zero emotion.
And on a different subject. Today, after the TD with a minute left he goes for two points, last game at the end he goes for a field goal, and the game before another game ending two point attempt. Is that when he starts thinking and coaching? When the game is in the books? I don't get it.
He's a assistant coach, no better. Head coach, been there, done that, hasn't he!
Mullen? take him back in a New York second. At least he showed emotion on the sidelines, not some stoic statue handing his little card of plays to call.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 5:18 pm to clayking
Plenty of HCs call the play themselves including some pros. That isn't the issue. Maybe minimal but HC calling playsbis no differu than an OC. Dan called the plays 90 percent of the time and still does.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 5:24 pm to clayking
Effort is a big issue but at the same time there are no leaders on this team. Cepr dantzler who was out and Willie who was out and Schrader who is a true freshman. With Mullen keytoan would be playing and likely banged up and he was about as passive of a QB being a leader I've ever seen. We are in a tough spot. I don't think you fire him until after this year. Like I said halfway I'm fine cause we signed next year's class
Posted on 10/26/19 at 5:28 pm to yatesdog38
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Let's hypothetically we still had Dan or another coach that was able to coach up this team and guide us through these suspensionsm
Hypothetically speaking, let's say your aunt had nuts. Would you call her uncle?
Did the cheating take place on Dan's watch? Would Dan have us in this position?
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Also without Joe you would have to be working with no zuber, no Timmy Stevens and no Garrett Shrader.
You are acting like that is a positive at this point. Look, I'm glad they are bulldogs but one is hurt, the other has a lot of drops, and the other is a true freshman running plays like coach thinks he is already Stevens.
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What would y'all want from a play calling perspective differently in offense and defense that would maximize the talent on this team?
Well first off let's not even discuss the playcalling right now. When we played Kstate, what did you see in those players versus ours? Those guys punched us in the mouth and kept punching. Those guys looked like they would have run through a brick wall for each other and their coach. Ask yourself how he was able to take that previous Kstate team with less talent and come to Starkville and kick our arse?
Defensively, we are fundamentally unsound at tackling and not attacking the ball. As far as playcalling, when has joe altered his offense to suit our current players skills? Sure, if Tommy would have worked out, maybe we beat Tennessee and KSU. Now, ask yourself what most coaches do when a true freshman starts. what plays do they run?
Fine, don;t blame joe for poor/regressed OL play. Don't blame joe for strength & conditioning. Don't blame joe for poor tackling skills. Don't blame joe for poor execution of his system because he doesn't have his talent YET. Don't blame joe for QB controversy. Don't blame joe for tutor gate.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 5:33 pm to yatesdog38
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That isn't the issue
It isn't the issue, but creating plays designed to find mismatches, plays that are designed to slowly get a true freshman into a system, plays to get the ball in your best players hands, are. If our line can't block, how about some quick throws. How about coaching the RB how to pick up a blitz. Find the hot read. not 7 step drops and try to go through 3 progressions.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 6:30 pm to yatesdog38
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Plenty of HCs call the play themselves including some pros. That isn't the issue. Maybe minimal but HC calling playsbis no differu than an OC. Dan called the plays 90 percent of the time and still does.
Sure they do. Lets look at the premier programs, Does Saban call plays? Did Meyer? Does Swinney? Champion coaches manage, sure Mullen called the plays, no champion ship yet as head coach! Saban, Meyer Swinney Yes
An OC job is full time to do it right. Ditto the head coach.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 7:00 pm to clayking
quote:Go back and look at the tape of Mullen's last game against Ole Miss. The only emotion was Mullen and Grantham laughing together on the sideline every time we turned the ball over or got penalized for a late hit.
Mullen? take him back in a New York second.
I don't begrudge Mullen leaving and taking a better job. But that prick quit actually coaching once his agent had an agreement set with UF - but he was getting paid by State.
Posted on 10/26/19 at 9:15 pm to dawg23
I could care less about a slip up or two when there was 9 years of evidence that this was working.
There's like this extreme rn where MSU fans still want to yap about Mullen as the worst or beat coach ever. Which are both wrong.
We're not even through year 2 and there's absolutely nothing good to look at in this era.
Should we beat Arkansas next week? Absolutely but who has any confidence?
There's like this extreme rn where MSU fans still want to yap about Mullen as the worst or beat coach ever. Which are both wrong.
We're not even through year 2 and there's absolutely nothing good to look at in this era.
Should we beat Arkansas next week? Absolutely but who has any confidence?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 12:10 am to yatesdog38
Why do you post stupid shite like this constantly??
We’re probably only winning 1 more game this year at home coming and it’s going to be a stretch.
We’re probably only winning 1 more game this year at home coming and it’s going to be a stretch.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:46 am to dawg23
Lets see. Mullen's first yr. he lost more than he won. Following years he gained. Even had us ranked #1 for the first time ever. A few nervous laughs on the sidelines? Don't recall but better than little to no emotion on the sidelines now, what I see from moosehead is fake. Too much of a offensive technician to be a head coach IMHO. when promoted, as in business, one goes from indian to chief, not head indian. I also think that Mullen might have had even more success if he had devoted all his attention to being head coach rather than split his duties.
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Go back and look at the tape of Mullen's last game against Ole Miss. The only emotion was Mullen and Grantham laughing together on the sideline every time we turned the ball over or got penalized for a late hit.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 5:40 pm to clayking
quote:I probably didn't explain myself sell enough. My point was that Mullen & Grantham quit doing any real coaching before the season ended. They continued to accept their paychecks, so they should have continued putting in the work.
A few nervous laughs on the sidelines? Don't recall but better than little to no emotion on the sidelines now, what I see from moosehead is fake.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:50 pm to yatesdog38
Mullen wouldn’t have so many discipline issues and the team would play much harder.
Mullen would have won 10 games with last years team as well.
Also against A&M when we kicked the FG before halftime, the redzone plaicalling was terrible
Mullen would have won 10 games with last years team as well.
Also against A&M when we kicked the FG before halftime, the redzone plaicalling was terrible
Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:41 pm to deltaland
I think we are all having the wrong conversation.
It is not about what Mullen would be doing with this team. Its what literally any other coach like Les Miles, Neal Brown, or Kyle Wittingham would be doing with this team.
Hell even Houston Nutt couldve won 10 games with that 2018 team.
As far as Croom goes, you could tell his players had his respect. Yes his players had off the field issues like any coach, but I do not think you would ever see current players cussing our coachesout on that staff like they have over time with this one.
It is not about what Mullen would be doing with this team. Its what literally any other coach like Les Miles, Neal Brown, or Kyle Wittingham would be doing with this team.
Hell even Houston Nutt couldve won 10 games with that 2018 team.
As far as Croom goes, you could tell his players had his respect. Yes his players had off the field issues like any coach, but I do not think you would ever see current players cussing our coachesout on that staff like they have over time with this one.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 8:10 am to The Winner
Les wins a NY6 bowl last year. Power run and defense
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 9:45 am to Hailstate15
Have you looked at our injuries? We may not win this weekend. Defense is riddled with them. Fletcher Adams is out for the season. Gonna be a tough game. Maybe some of these younguns will step up. There will likely be 5 freshman at least on the field at any given time on defense.
Posted on 10/29/19 at 6:06 pm to yatesdog38
I said last year
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