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re: Assuming we were to win in Tuscaloosa
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:47 pm to UMRealist
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:47 pm to UMRealist
In that case, both State and Auburn get in easily...
No one-loss SEC champ is getting left out. No one-loss SECwest team period is getting left out. Just not happening. You could argue that it may have happened if there were 3-4 undefeated major conference champions out there, but there isn't. None of them can compare resumes and have the total body of work to justify getting in over State or Auburn.
Oregon - 1 home top 10 win. Maybe a neutral site top 10 win in P12 title game. borderline top 25 home loss.
State - 4 top 10 wins, 2 on the road. One road top 10 loss.
Michigan St - 1 top 10 win(maybe).
Auburn - 5 top 10 wins, 3 on the road. One road top 10 loss.
I can keep going. It's just not even a remotely close debate at this point...
No one-loss SEC champ is getting left out. No one-loss SECwest team period is getting left out. Just not happening. You could argue that it may have happened if there were 3-4 undefeated major conference champions out there, but there isn't. None of them can compare resumes and have the total body of work to justify getting in over State or Auburn.
Oregon - 1 home top 10 win. Maybe a neutral site top 10 win in P12 title game. borderline top 25 home loss.
State - 4 top 10 wins, 2 on the road. One road top 10 loss.
Michigan St - 1 top 10 win(maybe).
Auburn - 5 top 10 wins, 3 on the road. One road top 10 loss.
I can keep going. It's just not even a remotely close debate at this point...
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 9:57 pm
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:48 pm to Hardy_Har
I don't think h2h matters as much as total resume. Otherwise TCU would be ranked behind baylor and we would be behind LSU.
I don't think Dan would let up even if y'all were undefeated going into the Egg Bowl. It wouldn't fit his narrative and the fan base would be pissed.
I don't think Dan would let up even if y'all were undefeated going into the Egg Bowl. It wouldn't fit his narrative and the fan base would be pissed.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:49 pm to engie
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No one-loss SEC champ is getting left out. Just not happening.
Agreed but I don't think two get in.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:51 pm to UMRealist
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I don't think Dan would let up even if y'all were undefeated going into the Egg Bowl. It wouldn't fit his narrative and the fan base would be pissed.
Exactly. Not to mention, even if the game is meaningless, it would frick up any momentum their team has. You don't want to lose to a rival no matter how "meaningless" the game may be.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:51 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Recruiting also..
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:52 pm to Hardy_Har
I don't think y'all would lose any recruits over it.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:55 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Probably flip a few after arkansas beats you.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:56 pm to Henry Jones Jr
It's all about the atmosphere to 18 year olds.. Either way, laying off won't get us any sharper. It probably won't be a factor of a game if we DO beat Bama but stepping back won't matter.
What if Damian did start and we still won? There's an even better situation IMHO.
What if Damian did start and we still won? There's an even better situation IMHO.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:57 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
Leo ain't flippin bruh 
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:57 pm to Hardy_Har
Damian is unbeaten as a starter.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 9:59 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
He earned his keep last year for sure. I enjoy watching him play.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:02 pm to UMRealist
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Agreed but I don't think two get in.
Why would 2 not get in?
They would be the best 2 overall resumes in the country. I see no way two one-loss west teams can be denied simply based on the strengths of both their victories and defeats... Assuming the one loss isn't a wtf loss...
Auburn is already #3. They aren't going to drop by winning out @Georgia and @Bama
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:02 pm to Henry Jones Jr
No one wants to play on ole miss' career killer turf.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:10 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
Outplayed Bo last year.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:12 pm to engie
Sorry, I meant I don't think 2 get in because I don't think Auburn wins out.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:15 pm to UMRealist
Me either.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:31 pm to UMRealist
If all the west teams but MSU(or Bama/Au for that matter) have 2 losses, then no, two will not get into the playoff.
For there to be an eventual west team with one loss other than MSU, we have to assume that either Bama or Auburn wins out. In which case, we still get 2 into the playoffs IMO. A one-loss MSU will get in based on strength of resume even if we lose in Tuscaloosa and Bama wins out and goes to the title game IMO... Basically, that would put Bama into our(current) shoes and us into Auburn's(current) shoes...
As long as MSU splits the OM and Bama games, it's pretty unlikely that we get left out of the playoff based on the strength of our Auburn, @LSU, and @OM/@Bama wins...
For there to be an eventual west team with one loss other than MSU, we have to assume that either Bama or Auburn wins out. In which case, we still get 2 into the playoffs IMO. A one-loss MSU will get in based on strength of resume even if we lose in Tuscaloosa and Bama wins out and goes to the title game IMO... Basically, that would put Bama into our(current) shoes and us into Auburn's(current) shoes...
As long as MSU splits the OM and Bama games, it's pretty unlikely that we get left out of the playoff based on the strength of our Auburn, @LSU, and @OM/@Bama wins...
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:50 pm to UMRealist
If Auburn wins out and State loses to OM the situation becomes interesting.
Wow how do you even come up with this nonsense? Same basic schedule plus head to head and AU has a better resume? I realize yall dropped two and your season is in the shitter again but WTF is this nonsense?
quote:but State would have the opportunity to win the SECCG and that could possibly put it over the top. It's going to be really interesting to see how much weight they put on conference championships. I'm not sure they will be a deciding factor.
Auburn's resume would be better up until that point
Wow how do you even come up with this nonsense? Same basic schedule plus head to head and AU has a better resume? I realize yall dropped two and your season is in the shitter again but WTF is this nonsense?
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:17 am to cave canem
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Wow how do you even come up with this nonsense? Same basic schedule plus head to head and AU has a better resume? I realize yall dropped two and your season is in the shitter again but WTF is this nonsense?
C'mon man that had nothing to do with OM. You've played a similar schedule but Auburn would have also had to play @Kansas State and @Georgia. I thought that was pretty clear. Don't be that guy.
This post was edited on 11/5/14 at 6:19 am
Posted on 11/5/14 at 6:42 am to Henry Jones Jr
quote:One beats #6 (lower if they lose to LSU), plus our less than impressive win last week, the committee might just be looking for a reason to bump a one loss MSU down some. We need to finish strong. So, I guess I agree with you.
I wouldn't do that. If y'all lose to us, you are likely out of the playoffs.
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