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re: What do you want to see against UT Martin

Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:43 am to
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:43 am to
Yeah I am going to bang the OL drum all season. I think it is clearly our weak spot and I saw people (QB, RB) trying to make up for it by making an extra effort and that will cause turnovers.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26750 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 11:44 am to
The right side of the line had some major issues as well. Both interceptions had pressure off the right side.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 11:54 am to
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You guys will get there. Mullen is one of the best in the business for offense and he's got a ton of weapons at his disposal.


The major problem is getting those weapons the ball.

This is one of the most talented teams we've had on offense in over a decade.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
26750 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 11:56 am to
It's not just that. It's blocking too. We have to be able to run effectively. Miami's front seven is very good(despite your insistence they aren't). So they stopped the run with ease on us. That kind of screws up the whole game plan. Add in they were getting pressure with just 4 rushing quite often and that is hard to work with. We have quite a few issues we need to fix.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30730 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:22 pm to
Tackling.

Splash plays.

Efficiency running the football.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:47 pm to
Their front seven is decent. They were all seniors at LB and on the DL facing guys who were starting for the first time and we easily...

e a s i l y

picked them up in passing downs. Franks only got sacked once. We have this idea that our entire line was just getting worked the entire game and this is completely false.

I know you guys are tired of hearing it, but every time I watch someone else getting the blame I have to bring them back to the tape:

Franks does not read the defense.

He also has a lot of trouble recognizing drag routes, too much trouble. They were wide open all game.

The reason they stopped the run is because we had no way to spread them out -- our QB couldn't even hit checkdowns on the edge with regularity.

We were driving it until he fumbled it.

His passes to the flat that were off-target:









Having four bad passes on a checkdown for a Redshirt Junior does not bode well for his future at the position. I understand being rusty, I understand it's a rivalry game and nerves are high -- these are routine passes. Easy.

Similarly: As I said, we were running into 8 man boxes all game. Our running game suffered not because of their front seven, but their front 8 or 9 -- they were daring us to throw.





Franks has to learn to read the box -- if he sees that they're creeping in, he has to change the play on his own and throw it downfield.

This is like, rudimentary Quarterbacking stuff. None of this is difficult.
This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted by real_gator8
Redington Shores
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/29/19 at 12:50 pm to
52 yards rushing tells you the whole story. One turnover resulted in missed FG, another one resulted in a punt, and pressure didn't help throwing the second pick...where did the pressure come from? The right side of course.

The good news is the Forsyth, Heggie and Buchanan held up the left side. Forsythe did a damn good job overall at left tackle against a determined miamuh defense. Delance at RT may be replaced before long.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
20812 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 1:25 pm to
Lmao. They had the 3rd ranked Defense last year and the Sr leaders returned this year and theyre “decent” ??
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 3:31 pm to
They played the 72nd hardest schedule, we played the 14th.

Miami's defense is probably slightly above average, but they're not this elite juggernaut you guys are making them out to be.

We made it laughably easy on them by not having any downfield threat for 85% of the game. They had more pass interference calls than we had completions downfield -- we just can't trust our QB to make those passes with any consistency.
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
2314 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:56 pm to
All I want to see is Trask play the second half go 24 of 25 passing for 385 yards and 5 TD and be front runner for Heisman after a half of football.

So Straws can tell us 100 more times how right he was about Trask.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 11:55 pm to
Kang Trask only needs one quarter to do that.

I'd be happy with Emory getting some time, too. I mean, it's not like we have offensive consistency that we're going to lose since we're never consistent.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12763 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:15 pm to
Franks needs the majority of the PT but hopefully the backups will get in some mop up time in the 4th.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
20812 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:23 pm to
You mean Trask, the guy who couldnt impress the last 2 staffs enough to get a shot no matter how bad you say Franks has played?? Must be reasons youre blind to as why he cant crack the lineup
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 12:50 pm to
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Franks needs the majority of the PT


That's all he's ever had and it doesn't seem to matter how much time there is.

quote:

hopefully the backups will get in some mop up time in the 4th.


We will likely see some special packages against the FCS team, unless we're going to save them for Kentucky.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:22 pm to
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Must be reasons youre blind to as why he cant crack the lineup


Wooh! Albino was just taking a shot at Straws, i believe.

We all know, with the exception of Straws that if either Jones or Trask was the better QB, he would be playing.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
20812 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:55 pm to
Id like to see Emory get at least a Qtr of work in. Let the rest fall as they may as the QBs go.
Miller v Burney at the LB spot.
Id like to see Zuniga and Greenard as little as possible. Let Moon, Carter and the other guys get reps.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 1:58 pm to
Why do you guys automatically assume that?

It took a long time for Mullen to bench Tyler Russell (in fact, the only reason Prescott got in was because of an injury).

quote:

Over the 2012 season, Russell threw for 2,897 yards and 24 touchdowns, both of which were school records until Dak Prescott broke both in 2014.


The majority of State fans knew that Prescott was better than Russell and of course Prescott went on to start in the NFL whereas Russell went to be on the practice squad for the Winnipeg Bombers.

What evidence do you guys have that the best QB is playing right now, or is the extent of your opinions on the matter boil down to: "Cuz Mullen sed so."

Everything by all accounts at practice don't suggest Franks is #1 since Trask has regularly outperformed him there -- more often than not.

EDIT: The one live game they had Trask beat Franks' passing statistics in every category.

I also want to emphasize that I'm not saying Trask should start or play instead, I'm just curious as to why you guys unanimously think that the best QB is on the field right now.
This post was edited on 8/30/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
20812 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:04 pm to
Youre not at every practice nor are you in the QB meetings ect.
Dude might be a fkn rock. Either way, like I said this is the 2nd staff who has passed on him being a starter over Franks. Its not because of Franks great personality
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/30/19 at 2:14 pm to
Even those who have been at practice say the same thing -- if you guys were legitimately interested in seeing it I would bring the quotes but I think I just frustrate people with the amount of evidence I give.

Even if Trask is a rock (I don't know if you mean intellectually or emotionally), you guys don't wonder if he had won the job what he would look like? If he was the one who got the lion's share of attention and snaps?

quote:

Either way, like I said this is the 2nd staff who has passed on him being a starter over Franks.


I mean, McElwain put Franks in when Del Rio was clearly the better player. So this would be the second time that a staff has misidentified the pros and cons of the Quarterbacks -- and Mullen has a track record of that as an HC.

quote:

Its not because of Franks great personality


Well, for people who are about hard work and humility, of course his personality is a negative. However, for whatever reason, his surrounding ensemble seems to like that part about him. For me, of course, it's clownish and draws attention for all of the wrong reasons but I think Mullen puts a lot of emphasis on "leadership" qualities.

I personally think people follow winners, period. I don't view Franks as a winner yet, but the season certainly is young.

I guess my worry comes from hearing all off-season about how much he matured and understood the game -- but he looked exactly like he did against Kentucky last year.

232 yards, 2 touchdowns, 1 INT, 2 fumbles

254 yards, 2 touchdowns, 2 INTs, 1 fumble

That's effectively the same player, although his Completion % went up -- we really limited our playbook to simple passes.
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