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This is the Miami team people are warning us about.
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:27 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPAV0GuO8eY
2019 Miami Spring Game.
Now, I realize Spring Games can't tell us a lot, but when the first snap from scrimmage the ball is on the ground, it doesn't bode well.
Oh, and Tathan is a midget.
Also listen to the groans of the crowd. Priceless. Manny is going to get destroyed.
2019 Miami Spring Game.
Now, I realize Spring Games can't tell us a lot, but when the first snap from scrimmage the ball is on the ground, it doesn't bode well.
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The first team offense and the first team defense were never matched up against each other with the first team on either side matching up against the second team unit on the other side of the ball.
Oh, and Tathan is a midget.
Also listen to the groans of the crowd. Priceless. Manny is going to get destroyed.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 11:41 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Miami makes me nervous bro. I’m not going to lie. We cannot afford a loss. I don’t expect it but I’m not guaranteeing a win either.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:16 pm to Bbobalou
If we lost to Miami it'd be a serious indictment against Mullen for a multitude of reasons that I explained in another thread.
1st year HC.
Dan Enos' offenses progressively got worse until he was removed from Arkansas and got a job at Alabama where he only lasted one year to take a demotion at Miami. Going from AHC at Alabama to OC at Miami after one year in a program is bad.
Blake Baker has never run a P5 defense and has only ever been a defensive coordinator for LA Tech whose defenses were "okay" but nothing special.
2015 - 62nd
2016 - 97th
2017 - 54th
2018 - 39th.
Running a G5 defense is much easier than P5 and while it won't be a big problem:
Grantham has more years as a DC in D1 or NFL defenses than Manny, Enos and Baker have combined in their respective positions at D1 football.
They have 7 years, Grantham has 12.
Mullen has 10 as an HC and we know he was an OC before.
Billy Gonazales has literally been working with Mullen for 19 years, ever since Meyer and co. were at Bowling Green.
The coordinators/OCs have been together a total of:
3 years for Defensive Coordinator.
20 years for Mullen and Gonzales.
20 years for Mullen and Hevesy.
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That is a massive staff advantage for us who have been basically running the same offense they always have and have perfected the craft. Then you add in Coach Savage and our S&C Program which definitively changed for 2018 (our guys weren't tired at the end of the year nor in the games, and were much better in the second half than first which led to several comebacks) and we're okay.
Every single meaningful skill player returns on offense. The offensive line, while inexperienced is actually almost completely senior (fourth year).
Stone Forsythe - Redshirt Junior
Brett Heggie - Redshirt Junior
Nick Buchannon - Redshirt Senior
Noah Banks - Senior
Richard Gouraige - Redshirt Freshman.
Manny has to fix:
His run defense.
His offensive line.
His QB. (Quarterback battles take reps away from guys.)
While:
Learning how to be an HC on the fly and having never worked with his offensive coordinator in this type of dynamic.
If Mullen were to lose this game, it would be a worse loss than Kentucky. At least for that game we had the excuse that we were missing David Reese and Jefferson while the entire team was undergoing an overhaul in assignments/defensive strategy is understandable.
Mullen had to change his base defense and offense in one off-season and with key running defensive players missing it's understandable that we got caught early in the season by Kentucky. That win by Kentucky also proves my point that coaches with a couple of years in their system is demonstrably easier to run than a newer HC.
So imagine being an HC with zero experience taking over an offense that was so bad that it barely managed to hit over 50% of its passes the entire year.
Finally: Teams with power rushing attacks have their way with Miami's front seven.
Several teams easily got over 200 yards of rushing (not big time rushing teams, either) and then Wisconsin went for 333.
The only way we lose this game is if we come out flat and turn the ball over. Mullen knows this game is for the entire state of Florida, so I know this will be one of those games where Florida probably comes out extremely inspired.
1st year HC.
Dan Enos' offenses progressively got worse until he was removed from Arkansas and got a job at Alabama where he only lasted one year to take a demotion at Miami. Going from AHC at Alabama to OC at Miami after one year in a program is bad.
Blake Baker has never run a P5 defense and has only ever been a defensive coordinator for LA Tech whose defenses were "okay" but nothing special.
2015 - 62nd
2016 - 97th
2017 - 54th
2018 - 39th.
Running a G5 defense is much easier than P5 and while it won't be a big problem:
Grantham has more years as a DC in D1 or NFL defenses than Manny, Enos and Baker have combined in their respective positions at D1 football.
They have 7 years, Grantham has 12.
Mullen has 10 as an HC and we know he was an OC before.
Billy Gonazales has literally been working with Mullen for 19 years, ever since Meyer and co. were at Bowling Green.
The coordinators/OCs have been together a total of:
3 years for Defensive Coordinator.
20 years for Mullen and Gonzales.
20 years for Mullen and Hevesy.
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That is a massive staff advantage for us who have been basically running the same offense they always have and have perfected the craft. Then you add in Coach Savage and our S&C Program which definitively changed for 2018 (our guys weren't tired at the end of the year nor in the games, and were much better in the second half than first which led to several comebacks) and we're okay.
Every single meaningful skill player returns on offense. The offensive line, while inexperienced is actually almost completely senior (fourth year).
Stone Forsythe - Redshirt Junior
Brett Heggie - Redshirt Junior
Nick Buchannon - Redshirt Senior
Noah Banks - Senior
Richard Gouraige - Redshirt Freshman.
Manny has to fix:
His run defense.
His offensive line.
His QB. (Quarterback battles take reps away from guys.)
While:
Learning how to be an HC on the fly and having never worked with his offensive coordinator in this type of dynamic.
If Mullen were to lose this game, it would be a worse loss than Kentucky. At least for that game we had the excuse that we were missing David Reese and Jefferson while the entire team was undergoing an overhaul in assignments/defensive strategy is understandable.
Mullen had to change his base defense and offense in one off-season and with key running defensive players missing it's understandable that we got caught early in the season by Kentucky. That win by Kentucky also proves my point that coaches with a couple of years in their system is demonstrably easier to run than a newer HC.
So imagine being an HC with zero experience taking over an offense that was so bad that it barely managed to hit over 50% of its passes the entire year.
Finally: Teams with power rushing attacks have their way with Miami's front seven.
Several teams easily got over 200 yards of rushing (not big time rushing teams, either) and then Wisconsin went for 333.
The only way we lose this game is if we come out flat and turn the ball over. Mullen knows this game is for the entire state of Florida, so I know this will be one of those games where Florida probably comes out extremely inspired.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:06 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You gotta remember Florida is one of the only games Miami will truly go all out for.
A lot of people don’t realize this but there is legit hate between UF and Miami.
A lot of people don’t realize this but there is legit hate between UF and Miami.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:19 pm to boXerrumble
Even going all out, we have a major advantage in so many parts of the field.
There are no excuses to lose this game. It's for the state.
If we don't come out inspired, it will have been a major failure by Mullen.
There are no excuses to lose this game. It's for the state.
If we don't come out inspired, it will have been a major failure by Mullen.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
How many times has the better team lost? Too many for me to feel comfortable.
With that said I expect an easy win. Tight to start but depth, conditioning and experience will prevail.
With that said I expect an easy win. Tight to start but depth, conditioning and experience will prevail.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:40 pm to Bbobalou
I think you guys are suffering from PTSD from latter Meyer, Muschamp and McElwain.
Given a month, he absolutely butchered a Michigan team.
Now he has an entire off-season to prepare for a Miami team who has no identity with a first year HC and several extremely lackluster coordinators.
I'd understand if they were a really talented team, or we didn't have 81% of our starters being upperclassmen -- but they're not. They're not talented, they're not experienced, they're not well-run (seriously, watch their Spring Game) and their S&C looks like diggity dogshit.
Manny has no idea what he's doing.
Given a month, he absolutely butchered a Michigan team.
Now he has an entire off-season to prepare for a Miami team who has no identity with a first year HC and several extremely lackluster coordinators.
I'd understand if they were a really talented team, or we didn't have 81% of our starters being upperclassmen -- but they're not. They're not talented, they're not experienced, they're not well-run (seriously, watch their Spring Game) and their S&C looks like diggity dogshit.
Manny has no idea what he's doing.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:24 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If I’m understanding the current lines Florida is favored by 7 with the o/u at 50.5.
With that logic they expect a score around 28-21 in Florida’s favor. That’s tighter than I’d like and not what I expect. I’m thinking it will be around 31-17 in UF’s favor with a big discrepancy in ToP and yardage.
With that logic they expect a score around 28-21 in Florida’s favor. That’s tighter than I’d like and not what I expect. I’m thinking it will be around 31-17 in UF’s favor with a big discrepancy in ToP and yardage.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:31 pm to Bbobalou
I think it'll be 40 - 10, maybe 40 - 17 if they get lucky or we start coasting.
Manny does not know how to stop heavy runners. Even if Perine were to go down, Pierce and Davis are waiting and they're both pretty good.
I actually think Franks is going to have a very good game.
Manny does not know how to stop heavy runners. Even if Perine were to go down, Pierce and Davis are waiting and they're both pretty good.
I actually think Franks is going to have a very good game.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:36 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Fans of other teams feel Frank’s not a competent QB. I feel he’s going to be one of our strong points and may even have an outstanding year. By the end of last year he was managing the team very efficiently. This of course is all predicated on the OL giving him decent protection. If they can’t pass protect well then you’ll see a heavy dose of Perine and others. Which I’m fine with also.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 3:08 pm to Bbobalou
We are going to do exactly what we did in the Mississippi State game (arguably one of his most consistent games) and start throwing shorter routes.
The difference is that he can actually hit plays down the field and even if he's not amazing -- just decent gets us in prime position to make noise.
I'm not a fan of his, but he has moved from "bad" to "decent", maybe even good. He just needs to keep growing, and we will have a pretty good team.
The difference is that he can actually hit plays down the field and even if he's not amazing -- just decent gets us in prime position to make noise.
I'm not a fan of his, but he has moved from "bad" to "decent", maybe even good. He just needs to keep growing, and we will have a pretty good team.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 5:24 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
The strong suit for the Univ of New Jawsey @ Coral Gables is their DBs...that's about it.
We face much stronger SEC teams than Wake Forest and NC St.
We face much stronger SEC teams than Wake Forest and NC St.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 6:04 pm to real_gator8
Personally, I don't think their defensive line is better than LSU, Georgia -- shite, let me be real:
I don't think they could beat a single team in the East last year. This isn't just bluster, but we were actually pretty stacked as a division.
I hold it to this: I need to see something from Manny's team that makes me think "this guy has it in order", from their Spring Game and also kind of what some of their more cogent and logical posters are saying, there is nothing that makes me think this should be a game we drop.
I don't think they could beat a single team in the East last year. This isn't just bluster, but we were actually pretty stacked as a division.
I hold it to this: I need to see something from Manny's team that makes me think "this guy has it in order", from their Spring Game and also kind of what some of their more cogent and logical posters are saying, there is nothing that makes me think this should be a game we drop.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 9:12 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I think we beat Miami 42-13
And 13 might be generous
And 13 might be generous
Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:31 pm to atlgator
I don't think people realize just how awful their offense is.
We're worried about our offensive line but Hevesy, Gonzales and Mullen have been together for 20 years and everything is like clockwork.
Miami's offensive line looks far worse than our own, and it's not like they have extensive time as a unit or with their current coaching staff.
I predicted that we would beat them so badly that they would try to reschedule more games in the future, I'm not changing that prediction.
We're worried about our offensive line but Hevesy, Gonzales and Mullen have been together for 20 years and everything is like clockwork.
Miami's offensive line looks far worse than our own, and it's not like they have extensive time as a unit or with their current coaching staff.
I predicted that we would beat them so badly that they would try to reschedule more games in the future, I'm not changing that prediction.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 9:19 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Its a rivalry game, a week moved up early, with everyone watching.
UF has everything to lose here, Miami has nothing to lose.
All I am saying is that don't be shocked if this is an ugly 30-20-ish type of game.
UF has everything to lose here, Miami has nothing to lose.
All I am saying is that don't be shocked if this is an ugly 30-20-ish type of game.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:17 am to boXerrumble
It was pretty much the same thing with FSU.
Although they were playing for a 40 year bowl streak. Trust me, we're going to come to this game prepared. Mullen knows this is for the state and solidifying our dominance there, he isn't going to let our team come out sloppy.
This is almost the exact same team that needed a miracle to beat the worst FSU team in 40 years by a single point. Minus an HC who actually had experience.
FSU was a rival, FSU was pretty much on their last legs playing for nothing, we beat the shite out of FSU.
Their teams are almost the same, and I don't think FSU or Miami are going to be very competitive these next few years. Mullen, with adequate time to prepare, has proven time and time again that his team will come through:
6 - 2 in bowl games proves it.
Although they were playing for a 40 year bowl streak. Trust me, we're going to come to this game prepared. Mullen knows this is for the state and solidifying our dominance there, he isn't going to let our team come out sloppy.
This is almost the exact same team that needed a miracle to beat the worst FSU team in 40 years by a single point. Minus an HC who actually had experience.
FSU was a rival, FSU was pretty much on their last legs playing for nothing, we beat the shite out of FSU.
Their teams are almost the same, and I don't think FSU or Miami are going to be very competitive these next few years. Mullen, with adequate time to prepare, has proven time and time again that his team will come through:
6 - 2 in bowl games proves it.
Posted on 7/23/19 at 5:44 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I got 34-16 and it may not be that close.
Posted on 7/26/19 at 2:36 pm to real_gator8
I think it'll be a close game, hope we blow em out though.
Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:24 pm to OliverQueen81
I continued to watch their Spring Game and read some of their updates -- they don't intend to know their Quarterback until two weeks or even one week before the game and it's not like "gaming" us, it's a literal they don't have anyone who they trust right now.
They've been splitting reps at QB, have a broken patchwork offensive line and their receivers look soft as baby shite. Their starting WR had the ball ripped away by a goddamn walk-on in the Spring Game.
They've been splitting reps at QB, have a broken patchwork offensive line and their receivers look soft as baby shite. Their starting WR had the ball ripped away by a goddamn walk-on in the Spring Game.
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