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Posted on 5/6/18 at 5:57 pm
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 5:57 pm

From Gator Sports @ Gainesville Sun

Quick question: If you had to pick, which of Florida’s three quarterbacks seems the most unnatural fit in Dan Mullen’s offense?

I’m going to go ahead and guess Kyle Trask is your answer.

It makes sense.




Feleipe Franks is a big, strong, fast athlete who has shown he can make plays — even big plays — with his legs.

True freshman Emory Jones, the true dual-threat QB on the roster, seems like an almost a perfect fit (and probably will be sometime in the future).

Trask seems a little slow afoot (at least compared to the other two QBs) and less likely to pose a threat running the football. So, he’s somewhat of an awkward fit in Mullen’s spread offense.

At least this seems to be the perception.

But in this case, perception is not reality.

Trask actually has embraced the offense, finds comfort in it, and likes the potential he has running it.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 7:03 pm to
I already know, I've been telling you from the beginning, everyone, about Trask. -_-

quote:

Feleipe Franks is a big, strong, fast athlete who has shown he can make plays — even big plays — with his legs.


He's not fast or strong. He fumbles without contact and is sacked very easily. He had three different defensive players with more than 10 yards of advantage who made him look like he was running in slow motion.

JALON Jones is fast.

quote:

Emory Jones


Is no where near where he needs to be size wise.

Tebow: 6'3'' 230
Dak: 6'2'' 230
Nick: 6'5'' 230

Trask: 6'5'' 240
Jones: 6'2'' 200 pounds.

I know this is gonna be super hard for people to accept, but:

Trask comes from a Spread Offense in high school.

Trask 21 yard run.

That is exactly the right kind of Quarterback for a Mullen offense.

Franks is way too fragile, he will get fricking MURDERED running the way he runs with his shoulders high in the air with huge, long strides.
This post was edited on 5/6/18 at 7:04 pm
Posted by PNWGator
Seattle
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 8:10 pm to
I agree with you on Franks, however I don't think E. Jones is too small. If he can make the right reads and deliver the ball on time and accurately, run only when he needs to on a read-option. Think of Chris Leak, Mullen knows how to make it work. But I do like Trasks upside as well, hoping we go with one of them.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:57 pm to
There is a huge difference between Leak and Jones, though, and that being that Leak was a senior in his greatest year, Jones is fresh out of high school.

It's going to be Trask with Toney taking the vast majority of the snaps. If that breaks down, it'll be Franks or Jones.

Although we have to keep close eyes on Burrow now that he's graduated.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:02 am to
Plus Leak was already great at reading defenses when Mullen took over. Once he figured out how to do a zone read, the offense just got better. I would actually go as far to say that Leak is the best pure passing QB that Mullen has ever had.
Posted by atlgator
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Franks is way too fragile


Not a Franks defender, I’m about done with him too, but he’s never been injured, never missed a play due to injury, and has never had to have surgery at Florida. He may not survive in this offense over a season, but I don’t think it’s fair to call him fragile based on what we’ve seen so far.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:56 am to
quote:


Not a Franks defender, I’m about done with him too, but he’s never been injured, never missed a play due to injury, and has never had to have surgery at Florida. He may not survive in this offense over a season, but I don’t think it’s fair to call him fragile based on what we’ve seen so far.


Shhh! That does not fit the Straws narrative. Trask is the second coming of Tebow. Look at this one run from HS. LINK

I think Trask will be the starting QB but he is the weakest runner out of the three of them.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

He may not survive in this offense over a season


Running the way he does, there is no way he will survive the offense -- and that's the point. This offense calls for a power runner, and that doesn't scream Franks at all. He has one big run against a mediocre Texas A&M defense and after that you couldn't name a big run.

The way he runs is dangerous for anyone, like I said: upright, shoulders thrown back, head up.

https://youtu.be/DncwQp3NzuU?t=88

It's extremely poor technique for a running quarterback.

https://www.hudl.com/v/28TrmJ

Compare it to Trask -- shoulders down, quick feet, covering the ball with both hands.

Any player in any system can get hurt, but no way can Franks be a power QB, no way. Not like that. So in conjunction with learning how to pass, he needs to be taught how to run without getting absolutely smashed.

Also: I don't think Trask is the next coming of Tebow, but I think he's a better choice than anyone that we have -- and has the size and skillset to fit the offense the best.

I'm fully, 100% committed to the Burrow Bus if we can get the transfer.
Posted by PNWGator
Seattle
Member since Jan 2018
211 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 2:31 pm to
There have been more rumblings that he will transfer, if he does it seems it would be a two horse race between us and Nebraska. We have the worse Qb room so the best chance for him to start right away.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 3:16 pm to
Trask: 2016 Spring game LINK
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

Shhh! That does not fit the Straws narrative. Trask is the second coming of Tebow. Look at this one run from HS. LINK

I think Trask will be the starting QB but he is the weakest runner out of the three of them.


Trask isn't the weakest, he's the strongest out of all three of them. He might be slower (although if we're talking Trask and Franks, they're about neck to neck). Also, Trask has more footage of him running, and he comes from a read option high school.

I touched on this a little, but he's not the Great White Hope, but he's the best guy for this system.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:08 pm to
Franks is the worst fit for this offense because he doesn’t appear to be able to run side to side . He can go fast in a straight line but he doesn’t have the size to run the ball straight into the teeth of the defense . If Franks wins the starting job that will say a lot about what Mullen thinks of the other QBs . Jones is still young and could be the future . The idea that it doesn’t appear that Mullen is going to try and recruit Burrows from OSU makes it seem like he thinks he has a QB who is better .
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:27 pm to
That's what I was referring to regarding Franks' strides when he runs -- it makes it impossible to change directions or get his pads down. He will not make it as a runner if he continues to move like that.

It'll be Trask and Jones, with Franks potentially playing backup to them if/when they get hurt. I suspect we'll see Jones every 3rd and 7th drive, if not a little more per game.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 1:33 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:35 pm to
I don't think showing a play where a defensive end who had given up on the play who has a 20 yard disadvantage chases Franks down from behind and tackles him is your best bet.

Even with those 78 yards he still had 58 yards total on the year. Yikes.


Kingsley Keke
#88 DLJuniorTexas A&M Aggies
HometownRichmond, TX
Height 6-4
Weight 305 lbs

Is the guy who outran him.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/3917340/kingsley-keke

Get outta here with that.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:15 pm to
Come on Finch, don't poke sticks at the badger with a clip that doesn't fit the agenda

Franks is tall and gangly last year and who knows? He may have filled out and has his legs under him now and can be an awesome read option QB ? Straws will implode if he is named starter

I don't care who the QB is personally, but would hate to see Straws if the Trask train derails
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:28 pm to
There's video evidence of a 305 pound lineman chasing Franks down with a 20 yard head start.
Posted by olemc999
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/10/18 at 6:42 am to
That was the longest run by a QB in UF history.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35584 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 8:08 am to
quote:

That was the longest run by a QB in UF history.

and it only took him 20 seconds.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/10/18 at 10:53 am to
quote:

and it only took him 20 seconds.


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