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Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 1/3/18 at 9:24 pm
Ill admit I wanted Chip or Scott pretty bad, being starved for offense the past damn near decade had me desperate for a HC known to put up points at a blistering pace and I wanted to see the Gators return to the days of old where they ran opposing teams off the field by halftime.
That said, after seeing the staff Coach Mullen has assembled and watching him on the recruiting trail going after top recruits with his relentless effort I believe we got the right man for the job. Not that I didnt want Dan, but after hearing his wifes comments about Gville I never thought of him as a possibility. Hell any married man knows, happy wife happy life so I thought that ship had sailed when we were searching for a new HC.
Turns out he was the best fit and I cant wait to see this team on the field next season as the future is bright imo.
Go Gators!!
That said, after seeing the staff Coach Mullen has assembled and watching him on the recruiting trail going after top recruits with his relentless effort I believe we got the right man for the job. Not that I didnt want Dan, but after hearing his wifes comments about Gville I never thought of him as a possibility. Hell any married man knows, happy wife happy life so I thought that ship had sailed when we were searching for a new HC.
Turns out he was the best fit and I cant wait to see this team on the field next season as the future is bright imo.
Go Gators!!
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:00 pm to dbuchanon
Mullen was my first choice because I didn't think he'd come to Gainesville. Something I've always liked about Mullen is that he's not afraid to also play defense. Chip Kelly and Frost score the shootouts, but in the end defenses are what win the game. The power-spread at least lets us get first downs consistently, and if we have an offense like that with a top 10 defense (a legitimate top 10 defense, not like Georgia's top ten until they face a great offense, a 2008 Florida Gators type of deal) we'll be unbeatable.
Mullen seems to understand that the staff is extremely important, and he's made some great hires in that way.
What gets me most excited is his receiver recruiting. Totally prepared to be WRU.
Mullen seems to understand that the staff is extremely important, and he's made some great hires in that way.
What gets me most excited is his receiver recruiting. Totally prepared to be WRU.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:47 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Well...when the honeymoon is over and some fans are yelling for Mullen's scalp....I will be here to defend him since he will be OUR coach. Not that I think we may not succeed with Mullen...but the SEC and south in general is a home for rabid knee jerkers after a loss.
Mullen wasn't my choice, but I'm ok with it...but not the fake coaching search done by the AD. I'd like to see more swagger and a coach who is really innovative with offense.
My first two choices have had some issues and were not considered....which I understand.
It is correct to state that defense wins games...not throwing the ball 50 times or even 40 times. Mullen will run the ball a lot and play field position. Bama wins with defense....make no mistake about it. Some younger fans get bored with run game and fewer passing attempts, me, I never get tired of winning.
Mullen wasn't my choice, but I'm ok with it...but not the fake coaching search done by the AD. I'd like to see more swagger and a coach who is really innovative with offense.
My first two choices have had some issues and were not considered....which I understand.
It is correct to state that defense wins games...not throwing the ball 50 times or even 40 times. Mullen will run the ball a lot and play field position. Bama wins with defense....make no mistake about it. Some younger fans get bored with run game and fewer passing attempts, me, I never get tired of winning.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:14 pm to reel_gator8
As long as it's not Muschamp's brand of running, I don't care. The thing I like about Mullen is that he actually does spread the ball around, he gives the ball to the playmakers anyway that he can. I'm so tired of not having jet-sweeps, not trying to the edges, not having a read option with the quarterback -- WHATEVER it fricking takes to get the ball beyond the sticks without it turning into an outright gimmick offense.
Mullen's brand of offense is a good one, and it will work very well with the talent we're getting in.
Our RBs and WRs will be lightyears ahead of what we previously had, and as long as we can get them the ball we'll be just fine. This is a coach everyone can get behind, even the Gator chomp getting out of the airplane exposed how much better it'd be under Mullen.
Mullen's brand of offense is a good one, and it will work very well with the talent we're getting in.
Our RBs and WRs will be lightyears ahead of what we previously had, and as long as we can get them the ball we'll be just fine. This is a coach everyone can get behind, even the Gator chomp getting out of the airplane exposed how much better it'd be under Mullen.
Posted on 1/3/18 at 11:53 pm to dbuchanon
Me waiting on the spring game to get here.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:02 am to reel_gator8
Reel's first two choices have to be Leech and Kiffin with the "swagger" comments...which I'd be cool with...would be awesome to have either.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 3:04 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
We know Mullen's offense is good.
We know it works at Florida.
We know it works in the SEC.
Last time our offense was to UF standards, he was the man behind it.
Feel like the offensive issue days are finally going to disappear. We may be like 2006 for a little, but once he gets his guys on board...we can see a 07-08 style offense soon. Also..can we clone Percy?
We know it works at Florida.
We know it works in the SEC.
Last time our offense was to UF standards, he was the man behind it.
Feel like the offensive issue days are finally going to disappear. We may be like 2006 for a little, but once he gets his guys on board...we can see a 07-08 style offense soon. Also..can we clone Percy?
Posted on 1/4/18 at 8:29 am to reel_gator8
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Well...when the honeymoon is over and some fans are yelling for Mullen's scalp....I will be here to defend him since he will be OUR coach. Not that I think we may not succeed with Mullen...but the SEC and south in general is a home for rabid knee jerkers after a loss.
This, hell I defended McElwain to the bitter end, I just believe that is what fans should do. Mullen wasn't my first choice but after seeing how much he wants to be here, how hard he is recruiting and the success he is having and the staff that he has put together, he may have been the best choice in the end. Go Gators!
Posted on 1/4/18 at 10:55 am to UFMatt
I won't defend blindly. When a coach proves he isn't good enough, it's our job as fans to help our program to me. Noise in the system does help remove poor coaching.
We can't sit idly by and watch someone destroy our University.
I try to be fair about it. Mac had three years, and it just showed he couldn't change and wasn't progressing. That Michigan game was it. It showed he just wasn't good enough.
Mullen has done nothing but show he is the man for the job so far. Very, very good staff. Big recruiting wins already. Has his name in a ton of big name recruits who had no interest in UF. Landed two big transfers.
He has pushed all the right buttons. He has my support majorly. But if year three..and UF still looks average...yea he loses it. UF doesn't take five years to fix.
We can't sit idly by and watch someone destroy our University.
I try to be fair about it. Mac had three years, and it just showed he couldn't change and wasn't progressing. That Michigan game was it. It showed he just wasn't good enough.
Mullen has done nothing but show he is the man for the job so far. Very, very good staff. Big recruiting wins already. Has his name in a ton of big name recruits who had no interest in UF. Landed two big transfers.
He has pushed all the right buttons. He has my support majorly. But if year three..and UF still looks average...yea he loses it. UF doesn't take five years to fix.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:48 am to Gatorbait2008
If Mullen is the man for the job, he’ll have Florida where Georgia is by year 3.
Kirby walked into a better situation than Mullen is, that’s why I think what took Kirby two years should take Mullen three. Hopefully we’ll end up ahead of schedule like they are.
Kirby walked into a better situation than Mullen is, that’s why I think what took Kirby two years should take Mullen three. Hopefully we’ll end up ahead of schedule like they are.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:13 pm to atlgator
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If Mullen is the man for the job, he’ll have Florida where Georgia is by year 3.
You surely must mean by the start of year 4. you don't expect Mullen to turn this around in just 2 seasons, do you?
I expect steady improvement and for us to be ready to compete at a National level after 3 years. Same argument as I had with McElwain, if we are not there after 4 seasons or close, we should start asking questions.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 12:36 pm to UFMatt
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You surely must mean by the start of year 4. you don't expect Mullen to turn this around in just 2 seasons, do you?
I expect steady improvement and for us to be ready to compete at a National level after 3 years. Same argument as I had with McElwain, if we are not there after 4 seasons or close, we should start asking questions.
I expect to see improvement year 1. 4-7 and shitty offense should make it easy. Special teams were really bad outside of Eddie. Defense could not tackle.
My expectations:
Offense does not look lost and less procedure penalties.
Vanilla offense to start out as players adjust. Our offense will take a big step forward during bowl practice.
Special Teams coverage units are much better. Either return the ball or go after blocks. No more max protect and fair catch.
Returners know when take the ball out of the end zone.
Defense will be more physical and aggressive. There will be a learning curve but it will improve by the end of the year.
A lot more blitzes or 8 in coverage. Not as much vanilla base defense that Shannon liked.
Posted on 1/4/18 at 5:26 pm to UFMatt
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You surely must mean by the start of year 4. you don't expect Mullen to turn this around in just 2 seasons, do you?
Yes. Every successful coach in the modern era(since 1997) did it quickly. Dabo is the longest to achieve it, but he wasn't at a power program. UF is not a four year rebuild.
Two good recruiting classes, better S&C, and good coaching UF should be back to competing for SEC titles and near the top ten. The talent is still there to immediately win 8 games next year. Add to it, and develop it, it should continue to improve in years two and three.
Doesn't mean we "have to be in the title game". But I expect to be in that picture by year 3, yes. Just like most major good programs.
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Posted on 1/4/18 at 6:02 pm to Gatorbait2008
It's also the fact that Mullen has more to work with than McElwain did when he came here. The team, for what it is, is returning almost all of its starters. The defense is a WIP, but the offense has a very good stable of running backs, several playmakers at RB and a senior TE. The line at least isn't a patchwork of transfers and undermanned.
Defensively the entire secondary is coming back, all of the linebackers have one year under their belt. Jefferson's coming back.
He should have an immediate impact and similar success. (if he's a good coach)
Defensively the entire secondary is coming back, all of the linebackers have one year under their belt. Jefferson's coming back.
He should have an immediate impact and similar success. (if he's a good coach)
Posted on 1/4/18 at 11:26 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I agree. Maybe not win the East but he should make us competitive in most games this year. We def have room to make up players wise. Only a few defenders are really "UF" level. Wilson, Henderson, Scarlett, Z, Polite. Rest are kind of...lacking right now.
Special teams improvement should be a huge plus. Being able to return...and tackle returners will be a very big change
Offense with the two transfers actually has a ton of playmakers. We just need a QB to get them a ball and a scheme to suit their strengths.
Special teams improvement should be a huge plus. Being able to return...and tackle returners will be a very big change
Offense with the two transfers actually has a ton of playmakers. We just need a QB to get them a ball and a scheme to suit their strengths.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:48 am to Gatorbait2008
I don't know, the defense I think will be okay just because we're going to have a very different look up front. They really, really need to bulk up and get more athletic. The S&C was severely lacking. However...the secondary should be far improved, and I'm happy that Gardner is coming back to CB (or at least I'm going to assume he will), and honestly Trey Dean looks better suited at Safety.
I think we're going to see a lot of dead weight transfer, so hold onto your butts.
Also, like I said a week ago, we might get some very pleasant surprises -- if Mullen gets them on campus, they almost always sign.
I think we're going to see a lot of dead weight transfer, so hold onto your butts.
Also, like I said a week ago, we might get some very pleasant surprises -- if Mullen gets them on campus, they almost always sign.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 2:01 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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. The thing I like about Mullen is that he actually does spread the ball around, he gives the ball to the playmakers anyway that he can.
Well you and I never agreed about Muschamp who is a better coach than you give credit for. He absolutely inherited a mess from Urban in 2011...a soft defense that he turned around in 1 yr. Mistake # 1 was letting Cheeseburger Charlie be OC...but remember we had NO RBs then in 2011. Gillislee was injured most of the year and we only had 2 scatbacks. Offense was Muschamps undoing and he tried several OCs. He has made USC a better team quickly and will be a thorn in our side often.
But back to 2016-17. Our defense bailed us out in 2016 over and over again. What burned my shorts was the failure to try jailhouse break screens with blockers more often to keep Franks upright. Teams blitzed the crap out of us and the middle screen would have slowed them down.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 3:08 pm to reel_gator8
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Well you and I never agreed about Muschamp who is a better coach than you give credit for.
He wasn't a good coach at Florida and did almost everything wrong. A mess was what he left McElwain, Meyer left Muschamp the #1 class of all time just a year before and had a humming program that had two national championships and a Sugar Bowl blowout.
McElwain had a team that had just been beaten by an injury depleted Georgia Southern and a terrible losing season, then another pedestrian season with the recruiting falling off a cliff. Muschamp made his own bed with roster mismanagement and having no idea how to run a program.
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But back to 2016-17. Our defense bailed us out in 2016 over and over again. What burned my shorts was the failure to try jailhouse break screens with blockers more often to keep Franks upright. Teams blitzed the crap out of us and the middle screen would have slowed them down.
We seemed to have an offensive mindset of not doing too much, which I understand to some degree because Franks' football IQ is near the lower end of the double digits. That being said, I don't think McElwain's staff was nearly as well-equipped as Mullen's. Mullen has brought in a veritable all-star staff of young, hungry guys who live and breathe football.
I also like the ''OC by committee'' idea that he runs, there are a lot of hands in the kitchen that can build an offense with a vast array of different ways to take pressure off of Jones.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
No excuse for it. You think every QB is intelligent? No. You simply the offense around them. Thing is...simple offense still works in college. See Chip Kelly's system. It's insanely simple. So is Auburn's. You find.
Posted on 1/5/18 at 8:29 pm to Gatorbait2008
Kelly's system is very simple, hence the fast pace. He relies on speed to cause an overreaction of the defense to open up plays and the auxiliary plays built off of them.
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