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re: Only one Florida player among the top 5 rated players vs. Mizzou.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:03 pm to dbuchanon
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:03 pm to dbuchanon
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3rd down Defense, or lack there of
Defense has had three elite showings:
MSST: 202 yards total offense.
Colorado State: Something like 5 turnovers.
Tennessee: Six turnovers (eight including 4th down stops)
Good showings:
LSU: Couldn't even score 20 points.
Vanderbilt: Just over 300 yards, only 12 first downs (w/o penalties).
Bad Showings:
UK
UGA
Mizzou
Okay, let's go with Feleipe Franks.
Elite Games:
None.
Good Games:
MSST.
Vanderbilt.
Bad Games:
Colorado State: 8/15, 119 yards. Last touchdown pass in the 4th quarter got him over 100 yards. (Defense bailed him out multiple turnovers, Special Teams with big plays)
Kentucky: 17/38. Had the same amount of turnovers as touchdowns, less than 50% completion rate. (Defense only permitted 19 points)
Tennessee: 9/18, barely had 100 yards by the 4th quarter and padded his stats late in the game. (Defense bailed him out with six turnovers)
LSU: 12/27, barely had 150 yards by the end of the game, threw for less than 50% of his passes. (Defense only permitted 19 points and sealed the game with two picks)
UGA: 105 total passing yards, took him the 4th quarter to even do that.
(Defense kept the game within one score until deep into the 4th quarter)
Missouri: 9/22, 84 yards.
Defense never stood a chance, Trask came in and whooped up on your boy.
I mean, if you want to blame Florida's defense for these games, that's fine -- you just look stupid. There are a few games this year where they would have had decent games if our Quarterback could just hit wide open players.
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Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:20 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Pffft
As usual, youre arguement is weak as f u c k
As usual, youre arguement is weak as f u c k
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:21 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
And I didnt blame the defense for anything. Just pointing out that the TEAM has played like shite these past 2 games
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:25 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
So by your own admussion, our defense has only had good showings vs bad offenses.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Defense never stood a chance, Trask came in and whooped up on your boy.
Lmao. Sad really. You cant talk any position on the field without blaming the qb or riding the dk of the other.
You got a lil smidge on your chin, might wanna get that off
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:42 pm to dbuchanon
I'm saying our defense is at least playing at an elite level when there are bad/decent offenses.
Feleipe's struggling against absolute arse defenses.
Just for an example:
Missouri had an FCS QB get 183 yards passing (Tennessee-Martin).
Missouri let Memphis get 208 yards.
Purdue threw for 572 yards.
Trask threw for more with 20 minutes less playing time.
Good, bad, Franks has never looked elite, and I feel like you're more interested in protecting your bruised ego than you are to listening to reason. The defense has looked good -- sometimes against lesser opponents, sometimes against greater (LSU, who almost had 500 yards vs. UGA).
In the end:
Franks has played 20 games.
He has failed to get to 100 yards by the 4th quarter (or at all): 8 times. That means almost 50% of his games he is struggling to make 100 yards a game.
He has only looked above average in one: MSST this year, but even then if you look at it contextually he didn't really do anything but throw bubble screens.
He's inhibiting the team on offense, and demoralizing the defense. That's just what it is, man, and I have no idea why you're so pissy with me when all I'm doing is giving you stats and a reality check.
Feleipe's struggling against absolute arse defenses.
Just for an example:
Missouri had an FCS QB get 183 yards passing (Tennessee-Martin).
Missouri let Memphis get 208 yards.
Purdue threw for 572 yards.
Trask threw for more with 20 minutes less playing time.
Good, bad, Franks has never looked elite, and I feel like you're more interested in protecting your bruised ego than you are to listening to reason. The defense has looked good -- sometimes against lesser opponents, sometimes against greater (LSU, who almost had 500 yards vs. UGA).
In the end:
Franks has played 20 games.
He has failed to get to 100 yards by the 4th quarter (or at all): 8 times. That means almost 50% of his games he is struggling to make 100 yards a game.
He has only looked above average in one: MSST this year, but even then if you look at it contextually he didn't really do anything but throw bubble screens.
He's inhibiting the team on offense, and demoralizing the defense. That's just what it is, man, and I have no idea why you're so pissy with me when all I'm doing is giving you stats and a reality check.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 12:56 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Becaue your arguement is exactly what is wrong with these kids today. Its always someone elses fault you cant do your job.
You blamed fatigue when they gave up 21 uncontested tds in the first half due to loss of gap control and blown assignments. Hell, after halftime they gave up another scoring drive so there goes that excuse.
As bad as the excuse of we need fans in the stands to play well. Pffft ok whatever.
OL isnt moving anybody, all of our big runs are the backs stiffarming guys and making plays after contact. The announcers even pointed out how Mizz backs were 3-4 yards past the Los before they were touched. That means your DL is being pushed into the path of the LB / they are climbing to block the LB who cant get in the lane
Wide open td pass to their TE, replay shows Vosean lost af in coverage didnt carry the post. The next post td to the WR shows the safety biting on the underneath action leaving the pass wide open.. This isnt fatigue, this is mental mistakes and being outplayed.
Like I said, we got ZERO QB hurries vs Mizz. Zero. I cant remember the last time our DEs had their name called for msking a play behind the los. UGA gave the blueprint and teams are following suit. Watch for SC to do the same.
You blamed fatigue when they gave up 21 uncontested tds in the first half due to loss of gap control and blown assignments. Hell, after halftime they gave up another scoring drive so there goes that excuse.
As bad as the excuse of we need fans in the stands to play well. Pffft ok whatever.
OL isnt moving anybody, all of our big runs are the backs stiffarming guys and making plays after contact. The announcers even pointed out how Mizz backs were 3-4 yards past the Los before they were touched. That means your DL is being pushed into the path of the LB / they are climbing to block the LB who cant get in the lane
Wide open td pass to their TE, replay shows Vosean lost af in coverage didnt carry the post. The next post td to the WR shows the safety biting on the underneath action leaving the pass wide open.. This isnt fatigue, this is mental mistakes and being outplayed.
Like I said, we got ZERO QB hurries vs Mizz. Zero. I cant remember the last time our DEs had their name called for msking a play behind the los. UGA gave the blueprint and teams are following suit. Watch for SC to do the same.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:02 pm to dbuchanon
i honestly feel as if the whole team is just going through the motions trying to get through the rest of the season. and the georgia game is reason. there's nothing left to play for since we couldn't clinch the east. same thing we saw back in 2012 when we lost to georgia and got obliterated in the sugar bowl.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:02 pm to dbuchanon
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Becaue your arguement is exactly what is wrong with these kids today. Its always someone elses fault you cant do your job.
So you're just an angry dude at Millennials, okay, say no more, man.
I'd say it's the opposite.
"Oh, I can't do my job -- the DEFENSE has to do THEIR job." That's more Millennial than saying: "I feel like both parties should have to do their jobs, and the one that has DONE THEIR JOB MORE OFTEN THAN NOT IS NOT TO BLAME THAN THE ONE WHO RARELY DOES THEIR JOB."
So if a police officer goes on shift and hits 6/9 of his nights well he's just as much as to blame as the guy who's 1/9?
This doesn't make sense, and it seems like a very longwinded way of saying that you're okay with a dude not carrying his weight, bud.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Never said I was ok with a guy not carrying his weight. Youre the one using it as an excuse that the other players on the team didnt do theirs.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:30 pm to dbuchanon
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:34 pm to dbuchanon
A football team is synergistic just like any other team. It's literally one of the first things you learn in the military (I'm trying to use applicable analogies here).
Passing offense was ranked in the 90's, defense was ranked in top ten for scoring defense until the last few weeks.
It's obvious who is making up a giant portion of the problems, and with Trask coming in and beating Feleipe in every single passing category available I just think it's a fool's errand to keep talking about the defense.
Not that they didn't perform badly, but to expect them to perform well when the offense can't even stay on the field and get first downs -- look:
Trask had six passing first downs in 20 minutes. The entire offense had 5 first downs combined in the first half. Moving the ball keeps the defense off the field, the defense is more rested, the defense does better -- AND THIS WAS WITH MISSOURI RUNNING OUT THE CLOCK.
If Trask had played the game, the defense very likely has a better day -- they'll still get beaten, Missouri is a very good team.
But we can't even have consistency passing against the worst pass defenses, let alone good ones.
Passing offense was ranked in the 90's, defense was ranked in top ten for scoring defense until the last few weeks.
It's obvious who is making up a giant portion of the problems, and with Trask coming in and beating Feleipe in every single passing category available I just think it's a fool's errand to keep talking about the defense.
Not that they didn't perform badly, but to expect them to perform well when the offense can't even stay on the field and get first downs -- look:
Trask had six passing first downs in 20 minutes. The entire offense had 5 first downs combined in the first half. Moving the ball keeps the defense off the field, the defense is more rested, the defense does better -- AND THIS WAS WITH MISSOURI RUNNING OUT THE CLOCK.
If Trask had played the game, the defense very likely has a better day -- they'll still get beaten, Missouri is a very good team.
But we can't even have consistency passing against the worst pass defenses, let alone good ones.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:48 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I just think it's a fool's errand to keep talking about the defense.
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Not that they didn't perform badly,
See, was that so hard?
Posted on 11/9/18 at 1:58 pm to dbuchanon
They have had bad games, they have had more good games than bad games.
I don't blame 70% anywhere near that of 10%. Franks has had more bad games than he's had good games, and has been consistently bad.
The defense has been good, especially in games where the offense could produce first downs. They were in a situation where they were never going to do well, Franks was in a situation he could do well.
When the backup QB -- lifelong backup, comes in and does better than you with 20 minutes less time to play, it is definitely MORE of a QB issue than a defense issue.
I don't know why you're so pigheaded about caping for Franks.
I don't blame 70% anywhere near that of 10%. Franks has had more bad games than he's had good games, and has been consistently bad.
The defense has been good, especially in games where the offense could produce first downs. They were in a situation where they were never going to do well, Franks was in a situation he could do well.
When the backup QB -- lifelong backup, comes in and does better than you with 20 minutes less time to play, it is definitely MORE of a QB issue than a defense issue.
I don't know why you're so pigheaded about caping for Franks.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:14 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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don't know why you're so pigheaded about caping for Franks.
Im not caping for anyone. Im saying most of the team -QB/OL/DL/LB/and DBs- has played like shite the past 2 games. Youre the one saying only 1 player has.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 2:22 pm to dbuchanon
Nah, I never said only one player has.
I'm saying only one player hasn't done his fricking job, buch. Literally that.
And I'm saying the rest of the team might have an easier day if that one fricking player could DO HIS JOB. Just do his job. Not even be good. Just average. I'd kill for average QB play over the last two years, and Franks can't even do that.
Treon Harris, a wide receiver for Middle Tennessee State, never failed to throw for a hundred yards in a game he started in 2015, fam.
HE WAS A YEAR YOUNGER THAN FELEIPE AND HE DID BETTER, AND HE'S A RECEIVER.
Fuuuuck.
I'm saying only one player hasn't done his fricking job, buch. Literally that.
And I'm saying the rest of the team might have an easier day if that one fricking player could DO HIS JOB. Just do his job. Not even be good. Just average. I'd kill for average QB play over the last two years, and Franks can't even do that.
Treon Harris, a wide receiver for Middle Tennessee State, never failed to throw for a hundred yards in a game he started in 2015, fam.
HE WAS A YEAR YOUNGER THAN FELEIPE AND HE DID BETTER, AND HE'S A RECEIVER.
Fuuuuck.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 6:44 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Mullen Thinks Franks is the best option right now . He is the head coach for reason and your the board troll for a reason. You keep putting all the Blame on Franks . Even your boy Mac thought Franks was the best option. If Franks is not the best option at QB then Mullen is to blame not Franks .
Posted on 11/9/18 at 7:00 pm to tjv305
Even Mullen said Franks was thrown out there before he was ready for the 2nd year in a row. We know now that Macs offense was shite, even Will Grier looked average playing in it. Franks is no world beater -noone said he was- but at this point he's all we got unless Mullen sees something in EJ to let him go out there the rest of the season. Id love to see him play but if he's not ready and he goes out there and gets destroyed then we have just set ourselves back another year at the Qb position..
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:24 pm to tjv305
You can blame Mullen and Franks at the same time.
Fraks is a terrible Quaterback -- he didn't get thrown in too early, Quarterbacks get that shite all the time and it's a tough sport. Grier was his age and Grier at least looked the part even if the stats weren't crazy.
Mullen made a huge mistake playing Franks, Franks made the mistake of thinking he had a future at the position.
Fraks is a terrible Quaterback -- he didn't get thrown in too early, Quarterbacks get that shite all the time and it's a tough sport. Grier was his age and Grier at least looked the part even if the stats weren't crazy.
Mullen made a huge mistake playing Franks, Franks made the mistake of thinking he had a future at the position.
Posted on 11/9/18 at 8:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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he didn't get thrown in too early
The irony... damn dude
This post was edited on 11/9/18 at 8:27 pm
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