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My humble and limited take on this year.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:24 pm
Coach inherited the players and has to work with what he has. Good and bad. 25%
Coach has to get his staff to coach them up and instill his team philosophy. 50%
Deal with the teams that are on this years schedule. 10%
Injuries that may happen and stuff. 5%
Win games with a team that looks like it knows what the hell its doing. 10%
If UF can do that then the players that are looking at Florida will make the commitment to part of it.
As of right now it’s a wait and see what thefirst games bring. If you ask me.
I can accept losses with good team play. Not if we Herp Derp around like we have. Blocking on own players and stuff.
Coach has to get his staff to coach them up and instill his team philosophy. 50%
Deal with the teams that are on this years schedule. 10%
Injuries that may happen and stuff. 5%
Win games with a team that looks like it knows what the hell its doing. 10%
If UF can do that then the players that are looking at Florida will make the commitment to part of it.
As of right now it’s a wait and see what thefirst games bring. If you ask me.
I can accept losses with good team play. Not if we Herp Derp around like we have. Blocking on own players and stuff.
This post was edited on 7/12/18 at 9:27 pm
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Posted on 7/12/18 at 9:47 pm to Bbobalou
That's the tough part about this year: Everyone wants immediate results without understanding that there's a lot of work to be done.
Personally, I feel like Mullen's work on the field is easier since there's just so much experience coming back. The recruiting will fall into place once we have on field results. Until then we're just waiting around, earnestly. I really want it to be September.
Personally, I feel like Mullen's work on the field is easier since there's just so much experience coming back. The recruiting will fall into place once we have on field results. Until then we're just waiting around, earnestly. I really want it to be September.
Posted on 7/12/18 at 10:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I agree. listening to the radio and reading on hear the expectation from our own fans is a best case situation as far as I’m concerned.
I really only expect much better play. Wins will be a bonus I don’t expect a 10 win season but would take it. Definitely not 4 wins. Not acceptable. 7-8 wins with good play is fine.
I really only expect much better play. Wins will be a bonus I don’t expect a 10 win season but would take it. Definitely not 4 wins. Not acceptable. 7-8 wins with good play is fine.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:04 am to Bbobalou
We struggled closing most of our games last year. Better play and better endurance will help that. We’ve seen improvement in one aspect. Let’s hope we see the other have come Labor Day weekend.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 6:27 am to finchmeister08
I'm the eternal optimist but I honestly think we will have a very good year. 2017 isn't going to be repeated...but remember we lost two games to LSU & A&M by a total of three points. Those Ls were significant because of the mental letdown.
Franks had never taken a college snap before...he was not ready to start and the entire team had coaching at some positions that wasn't superior. After those two close Ls things went downhill and a with a few injuries and suspensions cutting our depth, the season was over.
We have a lot of experienced talent this year and probably wont start but a few frosh during the season.
Special teams has to improve a LOT in the return and coverage areas.
No reason we cant win 10 games with our schedule and the decline I predict of some teams.
Franks had never taken a college snap before...he was not ready to start and the entire team had coaching at some positions that wasn't superior. After those two close Ls things went downhill and a with a few injuries and suspensions cutting our depth, the season was over.
We have a lot of experienced talent this year and probably wont start but a few frosh during the season.
Special teams has to improve a LOT in the return and coverage areas.
No reason we cant win 10 games with our schedule and the decline I predict of some teams.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 7:33 am to reel_gator8
Reel, what teams do you see declining this season?
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:05 am to bengalbait
I am extremely excited for the season. There seems to be buy in from the players into Mullen's system. Savage is doing work. The offense is not overly complex for the players to learn. I have doubts about Grantham but what he did last year at Miss State was really good. Looking forward to good special teams.
I am extremely disappointed in our recruiting structure. I know it is July and I expect UF to get to a top 15 class. Two of the prominent support staff are geared towards California. UF has 0 commitments to show for it and a lot of wasted effort.
UF needs focus on Florida especially our prime areas. One example is the Lakeland area. Zipperer, Gant, Summerall are all high 4 * recruits. The staff seems to be slow walking Zipperer and Gant in favor of flying out to California every chance they get to strike out.
I am extremely disappointed in our recruiting structure. I know it is July and I expect UF to get to a top 15 class. Two of the prominent support staff are geared towards California. UF has 0 commitments to show for it and a lot of wasted effort.
UF needs focus on Florida especially our prime areas. One example is the Lakeland area. Zipperer, Gant, Summerall are all high 4 * recruits. The staff seems to be slow walking Zipperer and Gant in favor of flying out to California every chance they get to strike out.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:52 am to Bbobalou
My take right now:
UF is weak up the middle of the defense.
--The tackles are unproven
--UF only has one good ILB
--Big questions at the starting safety spots
If anything happens to Reese, UF is really in deep shite on defense.
On offense, UF still doesn't have a QB and the OL has been bad for a while - so unless there are big leaps at those two positions it doesn't really matter how good the skill players are.
The schedule does set up nicely on the front end, but I wonder how mentally tough this team will be in the meat of the schedule.
This is a team with little quality defensive depth and no leadership on offense, so they will be fragile, and will need luck to win more than 8 games IMO.
UF is weak up the middle of the defense.
--The tackles are unproven
--UF only has one good ILB
--Big questions at the starting safety spots
If anything happens to Reese, UF is really in deep shite on defense.
On offense, UF still doesn't have a QB and the OL has been bad for a while - so unless there are big leaps at those two positions it doesn't really matter how good the skill players are.
The schedule does set up nicely on the front end, but I wonder how mentally tough this team will be in the meat of the schedule.
This is a team with little quality defensive depth and no leadership on offense, so they will be fragile, and will need luck to win more than 8 games IMO.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 12:39 pm to slayerxing
Your points are valid but with some QB development and improved O-line play, IMO 8 wins is the basement for this team, better coaching, lots of returning experience, improved attitude, better S&C.
We should without a doubt beat 3 of 4 OOC teams and win 5 SEC games. Then a couple splits against the 4 tougher teams on the schedule would mean a 10 win season.
Go Gators.
We should without a doubt beat 3 of 4 OOC teams and win 5 SEC games. Then a couple splits against the 4 tougher teams on the schedule would mean a 10 win season.
Go Gators.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 1:36 pm to UFMatt
I think that is an overly optimistic appraisal of the situation.
Florida could lose to almost any team on the schedule if a qb doesn’t emerge and that’s a big if.
The defense looks serviceable but not special. The depth is mediocre so Uf can’t lean on the D. We have no idea what special team will look like and thinking this offense is going to be any good in year one is wishful thinking at best.
If uf is super lucky and a qb emerges they have a chance to catch lightning in a bottle like Mac in 2015. But even with a qb this team is going to be in a dog fight every week after week 1.
Florida could lose to almost any team on the schedule if a qb doesn’t emerge and that’s a big if.
The defense looks serviceable but not special. The depth is mediocre so Uf can’t lean on the D. We have no idea what special team will look like and thinking this offense is going to be any good in year one is wishful thinking at best.
If uf is super lucky and a qb emerges they have a chance to catch lightning in a bottle like Mac in 2015. But even with a qb this team is going to be in a dog fight every week after week 1.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 3:33 pm to slayerxing
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Florida could lose to almost any team on the schedule if a qb doesn’t emerge and that’s a big if.
You guys saying 7 to 8 wins are being far more charitable than I am. If we only win 8 games that means we dropped two games that we should have won on talent alone.
If we drop 4 - 5 games, Mullen isn't nearly the coach we think he is and we might be in deep shite.
18 starters returning + highly touted transfers + suspended players returning for depth and starters = good rebound year.
Unless, of course, Mullen is just a terrible coach. Even with a mediocre quarterback, we should be able to win 8, 9 with above average and 10+ with elite. 10+ is probably never going to happen but I think we're more likely to win 9 than 7 if Mullen is actually a good coach.
Posted on 7/13/18 at 8:47 pm to slayerxing
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slayerxing
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UF is weak up the middle of the defense. --The tackles are unproven --UF only has one good ILB --Big questions at the starting safety spots
Beg to defer...but do you really know the roster? Khairi Clark has been playing for three years and demands double teams in spots. He is a wide body. We have plenty of DL to rotate 9 men. Campbell is huge, Conliffe, Zack Carter will play after r/s season.
Secondary will be solid...Wilson and Henderson will be in the NFL after next year.
Color me optimistic again.
LB? Moon played as a r/s frosh last year and will now be ready to showcase his talents....he is a big dude at 6'5 amd about 260. Vosean Joseph can best be described by the viscous hit he put on Eitling in 2016 to stop LSU at the 1 yd line and they ended up not scoring, plus remember everyone had minor injuries that were not publicized at all to prevent rivals from scheming the positions. We have added depth from the suspensions and Kylan Johnson has a lot of experience on the outside and he too had injuries.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 10:37 am to Bbobalou
I am amazed that we are missing on all of these recruits lately, I last checked and we were 31st in recruiting rankings. We are making a lot of kids top 5 lists but it just seems we can't close.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 1:08 pm to Bbobalou
I hope to all goodness that we destroy every team and bring in a ton of talent. Not for my fanship or for my own personal enjoyment, but so people like TJ and every uga and miss st fan can kindly eat a dick.
Other than that I expect more energy and effort out of our guys and coaches. I expect more disciplined play from the line of scrimmage. More exciting blitzing on defense with a large possibility of more forced TO’s.
Other than that I expect more energy and effort out of our guys and coaches. I expect more disciplined play from the line of scrimmage. More exciting blitzing on defense with a large possibility of more forced TO’s.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 1:20 pm to Bbobalou
i think we'll win 9 or 10 games(including bowl).
gonna have to do that so we can recruit.
very pivotal year for gator nation.
gonna have to do that so we can recruit.
very pivotal year for gator nation.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 7:27 pm to reel_gator8
Khairi Clark is not very good. He's serviceable at best.
UF has plenty of bodies, sure, but nobody proven.
There is only one legit ILB on the team, and although I think he is a very underrated LB in the SEC and could have a huge year, UF has no other consistent LB on the team.
UF has good corners, but they don't have any proven talent at safety.
Vosean Joseph is getting a lot of mileage out of one big hit two years ago. He was not very good last year and was extremely inconsistent. Johnson is a converted safety and may not be big enough to play inside, and Moon is an outside guy and won't play inside.
That's what I'm trying to tell you Reel - UF has got nothing proven up the middle right now all the way from DT, to ILB, to S.
OLB, CB, DE, yeah - those units are the best on the defense. But up the middle is a different story.
Maybe they all end up playing like All-americans, but I doubt it.
UF has plenty of bodies, sure, but nobody proven.
There is only one legit ILB on the team, and although I think he is a very underrated LB in the SEC and could have a huge year, UF has no other consistent LB on the team.
UF has good corners, but they don't have any proven talent at safety.
Vosean Joseph is getting a lot of mileage out of one big hit two years ago. He was not very good last year and was extremely inconsistent. Johnson is a converted safety and may not be big enough to play inside, and Moon is an outside guy and won't play inside.
That's what I'm trying to tell you Reel - UF has got nothing proven up the middle right now all the way from DT, to ILB, to S.
OLB, CB, DE, yeah - those units are the best on the defense. But up the middle is a different story.
Maybe they all end up playing like All-americans, but I doubt it.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 6:21 am to slayerxing
Slayer, you are at odds with me and Lindy's preseason SEC magazine which has stated that the defensive line is one of our strengths this year.
I can say potato and you would say potayto and we could go round and round. Just remember last year the defense suffered from an offense that kept putting them on the field and a special team coverage unit that was awful.
And we did have a lot of youth play in the backfield out of necessity...which will pay off this year.
We have to run the ball much better and keep our 2nd and 3rd down plays manageable. Teams last year stacked the line and dared us to throw...and our coaching didn't compensate...we needed short passes, screens to counter the blitzs more. Mullen will make teams pay when they blitz and our QB has a year under his belt and with better coaching I expect better results.
We will soon see in a few months.
I can say potato and you would say potayto and we could go round and round. Just remember last year the defense suffered from an offense that kept putting them on the field and a special team coverage unit that was awful.
And we did have a lot of youth play in the backfield out of necessity...which will pay off this year.
We have to run the ball much better and keep our 2nd and 3rd down plays manageable. Teams last year stacked the line and dared us to throw...and our coaching didn't compensate...we needed short passes, screens to counter the blitzs more. Mullen will make teams pay when they blitz and our QB has a year under his belt and with better coaching I expect better results.
We will soon see in a few months.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:28 am to slayerxing
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Khairi Clark is not very good. He's serviceable at best.
UF has plenty of bodies, sure, but nobody proven.
There is only one legit ILB on the team, and although I think he is a very underrated LB in the SEC and could have a huge year, UF has no other consistent LB on the team.
UF has good corners, but they don't have any proven talent at safety.
Vosean Joseph is getting a lot of mileage out of one big hit two years ago. He was not very good last year and was extremely inconsistent. Johnson is a converted safety and may not be big enough to play inside, and Moon is an outside guy and won't play inside.
That's what I'm trying to tell you Reel - UF has got nothing proven up the middle right now all the way from DT, to ILB, to S.
OLB, CB, DE, yeah - those units are the best on the defense. But up the middle is a different story.
Maybe they all end up playing like All-americans, but I doubt it.
Completely agree that Clark is not very good. However, Slaton is a stud. When he was on the field he was very disruptive. His weight kept his snap count low last year. He has lost a lot of weight in the offseason. He is primed to have a huge season (All SEC is my prediction).
Outside of Slaton, UF is unproven or worse a major flaw.
I don't even consider Reese to be legit at MLB. Good in the run game. Too slow. Not a sideline to sideline MLB. A liability in the pass coverage.
I don't want to think about our returning safeties. They sucked. They are in a ton of RBs highlight reels. Hopefully Burney can step up. He had a great spring game, he is not experienced.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 7:37 am to reel_gator8
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Slayer, you are at odds with me and Lindy's preseason SEC magazine which has stated that the defensive line is one of our strengths this year.
UF has plenty of proven talent at outside DL positions. That is where bulk of the DL talent is.
I would like UF to be more proven at DT and SDE. Outside of Slaton and Polite, who is proven they are SEC level players? Clark is not, he is a tier below that.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:38 am to BloodSweat&Beers
Clark played a lot last year because there was no one else, not because he is very good. He does not demand double teams, and lacks explosiveness.
I believe that Slaton and others will pass him on the depth chart. He will still play, but not as much. I hope UF has that luxury this year.
Even at DE, where UF is stronger with guys like Cece, Zuniga, and Polite, they aren't exactly blowing people away with elite pass rushing or edge setting ability. And as much as I like the upside of guys like Moon and Clayton, they haven't really done much yet.
UF has been shredded on the ground the last few years. They have given up 170 yards or more rushing in 13 of the last 24 games they have played. Blame that on the offense some if you want, but part of that is the defensive front is just not as good as it once was.
And safety. God... Safety play has been god awful since Marcell Harris was hurt in 2016. Chauncey moved to nickel where he should be a better fit, but we are looking at some big question marks at safety. I doubt most other SEC teams would trade for our safeties right now.
I believe that Slaton and others will pass him on the depth chart. He will still play, but not as much. I hope UF has that luxury this year.
Even at DE, where UF is stronger with guys like Cece, Zuniga, and Polite, they aren't exactly blowing people away with elite pass rushing or edge setting ability. And as much as I like the upside of guys like Moon and Clayton, they haven't really done much yet.
UF has been shredded on the ground the last few years. They have given up 170 yards or more rushing in 13 of the last 24 games they have played. Blame that on the offense some if you want, but part of that is the defensive front is just not as good as it once was.
And safety. God... Safety play has been god awful since Marcell Harris was hurt in 2016. Chauncey moved to nickel where he should be a better fit, but we are looking at some big question marks at safety. I doubt most other SEC teams would trade for our safeties right now.
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