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Posted on 10/8/21 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 10/8/21 at 12:30 pm to
Good news is people will eventually have to back to work to pay for the 33% increase in food and gas prices. Government can't give away enough money to cover that.

Let's go Brandon
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 8:17 am to
Not hearing much from the Biden defenders lately?

Hard to defend the FOBAR taking place under Brandon.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:01 pm to
Just a reminder, "LET'S GO BRANDON!" #FJB
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 11/11/21 at 11:50 am to
$60.00 to fill up a Jeep Wrangler with regular unleaded.
Last year, $40.00 tops.
Turkeys at Publix, $1.59LB, last year .79LB and very limited selection.
Vaxx mandates, inflation highest in 30 years, supply chain in choas, transgender Navy ships, China and Russia on the move, crime waves across the country.


Thanks Brandon and the 81 million (yeah right) that voted for him.
Posted by dbuchanon
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Posted on 11/11/21 at 3:06 pm to
You can’t defend a man who literally stood there n shite himself


Guy’s a fkn disgrace
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 11/14/21 at 7:15 am to
just spent $100 worth of groceries. May last 5 days at best
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 9:45 am to
All you Biden supporters ready for a new round of shut downs due to a new, weak variant of Covid? I'm sure that is what he will do, it a control thing, you know! Elections have consequences. Unfortunately we are all having to live with them. Let's go Brandon!!!
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 7:31 am to
Just a reminder for you 81 million (yeah, right) that voted for Brandon; Inflation is the highest in over 4 decades and the national average for gas up over $1.30 a gallon since Trump left office. More people died from Covid since Biden took office than before, over 12 million jobs open because we continue to pay people to stay at home. Crime is up in blue states. China and Russia on the move against a weak US administration. Vaccine mandates costing hard working Americans their jobs. But don't worry a big red wave is coming in 2022, hopefully you will see the light and be a part of it. Thank God, I live in the free state of Florida. Thank you Governer DeSantis.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 7:50 am to
in before Sparty/Peter with the downvote.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 8:46 am to
Posted by LuciusSulla
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 11:45 am to
You know, the real problem here isn't that you understand so little about oil industry economics as to really believe that any presidential policy from any president has ever had that acute an effect on gas prices.

LINK

And it isn't that you believe that people aren't taking jobs because they were being paid to stay at home despite the fact that states who ended the unemployment plus-up saw zero change in their own employment struggles over the same time period.

LINK

It's not even the fact that you'll scream about inflation over spending on social programs in the last two years, but indulge in special pleading to argue that somehow, magically, the $8ish trillion dollars we've spent on the military from 2010 to 2020 didn't overheat the economy because, I guess, those dollars don't act the same as the other dollars. Basically, printing money for a stimulus check cause inflation, but printing money to buy a score of F-35s doesn't, which is, by the way, exactly how the military budget gets paid as well.

LINK /

The problem is that your brain is so thoroughly locked in this schema of binary opposition that by my even mentioning any of the above, I would imagine you believe I'm a staunch "Biden supporter," along with any number of attributes your brain has mapped into a heuristic for assessing the political landscape. Do I hate guns? Do I own a hybrid? Am I vegetarian or, even worse, vegan? Because it's all bundled together, right?

I personally don't know how anyone expects to fix a damn thing in this country when all politics is simply adopting any talking point unchallenged that backs up the belief that the other team sucks. Never do we evaluate whether said proposal by the other team, in a vacuum, sucks. It simply must suck because they thought of it, and to try to gussy up that circular logic as something even approaching a valid argument, a bunch of superficial talking points based on spurious correlation (or sometimes no correlation at all) is retrofit to camouflage said circular argument.

When the primary purpose of voting is to yell "score board" and not to understand the actual nature of these problems, well, you get the last 25 years. Because, I'll tell you straight up, I do believe there is a high probability that if Trump was behind all these exact same policies - and when you look at his 2016 platform, it isn't a stretch to say he might have done any of this stuff himself - you would have been all for it. The issue has nothing to do with the actual policy being pursued and proposed, it's simply who is proposing it. Dems bad. GOP good.

Many people in both countries, The Republic of Democratic and the Commonwealth of Republican to take Descartes' Demon to heart. How can you ever really know what is true and real if you are never willing to question if perhaps everything you think you know is wrong?

So yes, lecture me about being a "Biden Supporter," whatever in the hell that is. I don't particularly care if you aren't willing to consider the above because it's really all just rhetoric with no chance at an actual dialectic. And that is what makes me despair for the future of the country. Not Republicans. Not Democrats. Not Socialists. Not Capitalists. It's this need to force everything into this framework of binary opposition, this stupid manichean worldview of every last thing, that has eroded American intellectualism to the point that I think we're all well and truly fricked no matter who is nominally in charge.

Welcome to Gramsci's interregnum.
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

You know, the real problem here isn't that you understand so little about oil industry economics as to really believe that any presidential policy from any president has ever had that acute an effect on gas prices.


Only had to read that far to conclude that you are not the sharpest tool in the shed or a liberal professor. Please explain why was gas cheaper a year ago? When a President declares war on fossil fuel, shuts down pipelines and reduces US oil production it affects global supply and increased prices at the pump. Basic supply and demand.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by UFMatt
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

And it isn't that you believe that people aren't taking jobs because they were being paid to stay at home despite the fact that states who ended the unemployment plus-up saw zero change in their own employment struggles over the same time period.


Why are there 12 million jobs available in the US right now and local business can't fill them? Please explain.
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

It's not even the fact that you'll scream about inflation over spending on social programs in the last two years, but indulge in special pleading to argue that somehow, magically, the $8ish trillion dollars we've spent on the military from 2010 to 2020 didn't overheat the economy because,


So again, please explain why inflation hasn't been this high in 40 years? Did we just start to fund the military? I don't think so. Could it be that in the last year we are printing money as fast as the government can give it away? probably
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:11 pm to
[quote]The problem is that your brain is so thoroughly locked in this schema of binary opposition that by my even mentioning any of the above, I would imagine you believe I'm a staunch "Biden supporter," along with any number of attributes your brain has mapped into a heuristic for assessing the political landscape. Do I hate guns? Do I own a hybrid? Am I vegetarian or, even worse, vegan? Because it's all bundled together, right?

I personally don't know how anyone expects to fix a damn thing in this country when all politics is simply adopting any talking point unchallenged that backs up the belief that the other team sucks. Never do we evaluate whether said proposal by the other team, in a vacuum, sucks. It simply must suck because they thought of it, and to try to gussy up that circular logic as something even approaching a valid argument, a bunch of superficial talking points based on spurious correlation (or sometimes no correlation at all) is retrofit to camouflage said circular argument.

When the primary purpose of voting is to yell "score board" and not to understand the actual nature of these problems, well, you get the last 25 years. Because, I'll tell you straight up, I do believe there is a high probability that if Trump was behind all these exact same policies - and when you look at his 2016 platform, it isn't a stretch to say he might have done any of this stuff himself - you would have been all for it. The issue has nothing to do with the actual policy being pursued and proposed, it's simply who is proposing it. Dems bad. GOP good.

Many people in both countries, The Republic of Democratic and the Commonwealth of Republican to take Descartes' Demon to heart. How can you ever really know what is true and real if you are never willing to question if perhaps everything you think you know is wrong?

So yes, lecture me about being a "Biden Supporter," whatever in the hell that is. I don't particularly care if you aren't willing to consider the above because it's really all just rhetoric with no chance at an actual dialectic. And that is what makes me despair for the future of the country. Not Republicans. Not Democrats. Not Socialists. Not Capitalists. It's this need to force everything into this framework of binary opposition, this stupid manichean worldview of every last thing, that has eroded American intellectualism to the point that I think we're all well and truly fricked no matter who is nominally in charge.

Welcome to Gramsci's interregnum.

The rest of this is just gibberish from someone who thinks they are the smartest person in the room.
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Do I hate guns? Do I own a hybrid? Am I vegetarian or, even worse, vegan?


Missed this on my first pass. I would bet 3 of the 4 at a minimum.
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
11435 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:17 pm to
We do agree on one thing, Go Gators!
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:40 pm to
You'd have failed that test, friend. ;)

I have a box of steaks getting delivered today (along with a ham), aside from my old pickup truck, tend to prefer 6-speed manuals, and I'm skittish about saying publicly what I own as far as firearms, though I will say my preference is toward older wheel guns like old three-screw Ruger Blackhawks when it come down to simply what I enjoy shooting.

The boxes we're sold to put people in really only work about 15% of the time. The vast majority of Americans don't fit very neatly in them.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:46 pm to
boy, i'm too lazy to read all of that.
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
11435 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

boy, i'm too lazy to read all of that


Cliff notes, It's all Trump's fault.
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