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Posted on 8/28/18 at 8:37 am to boXerrumble
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I would love for Franks to prove everyone wrong.
I don't even care about that, I just want the Gators to win. If you are a Gator, you should be behind the team, players and coaches. Hell, we haven't even played a game yet and rats are jumping overboard.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 8:59 am to UFMatt
All you do is bash posters. You are a NEGAPOSTER. You don't know how hard we posters work to put these posts together, and all you do is come and call bash us. You aren't a true SECrant fan.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:29 am to slayerxing
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You are a NEGAPOSTER
True, but if you claim to be a fan, act like one and pull for your team.
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Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:25 am to UFMatt
Man, I'm not sure anyone on this board has been called homer or a sunshine pumper more than myself outside of reel. I actually provide content (when I can) and help out the board here a lot, I pore over video and try to piece together by looking at multiple platforms. I love Gator football.
That does not mean that I have to take a Quarterback at face value. Franks has to earn his keep, and he hasn't over the past few years.
I will support him when he starts showing some consistency and he makes me believe he really wants that job. For now, he just lucked out that he didn't hurt his foot last year and Trask wasn't the healthy one. He lucked out that Del Rio's body finally broke. He didn't "earn" anything except a spot to start over a career non-starter and a true freshman.
I pull for Florida, and I want him to be successful, it has nothing to do with fandom -- he is simply not the type of Quarterback you want for your team.
Less than substandard passing game with a mediocre rushing game, I'm fine with Mullen giving him the benefit of the doubt -- it wouldn't be the first coach he duped into believing he can get the job done by his work in the off-season.
And worst of all: I take no pleasure in this stance, it's not popular, and I get it. I get that we love us an underdog story -- but it's not fair to Emory Jones or Trask. It sets a terrible precedent for the future, too.
Trask won the last scrimmage of the camp, and what message does that send to the other guys we're recruiting? Oh, you performed better than the starter and worked harder? frick you, he's the incumbent.
The air has been let out of the balloon, because I know Franks is still at least a year away and he doesn't have the accumen to manage a game.
That does not mean that I have to take a Quarterback at face value. Franks has to earn his keep, and he hasn't over the past few years.
I will support him when he starts showing some consistency and he makes me believe he really wants that job. For now, he just lucked out that he didn't hurt his foot last year and Trask wasn't the healthy one. He lucked out that Del Rio's body finally broke. He didn't "earn" anything except a spot to start over a career non-starter and a true freshman.
I pull for Florida, and I want him to be successful, it has nothing to do with fandom -- he is simply not the type of Quarterback you want for your team.
Less than substandard passing game with a mediocre rushing game, I'm fine with Mullen giving him the benefit of the doubt -- it wouldn't be the first coach he duped into believing he can get the job done by his work in the off-season.
And worst of all: I take no pleasure in this stance, it's not popular, and I get it. I get that we love us an underdog story -- but it's not fair to Emory Jones or Trask. It sets a terrible precedent for the future, too.
Trask won the last scrimmage of the camp, and what message does that send to the other guys we're recruiting? Oh, you performed better than the starter and worked harder? frick you, he's the incumbent.
The air has been let out of the balloon, because I know Franks is still at least a year away and he doesn't have the accumen to manage a game.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:46 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You’re taking this way to hard Straws, many of us have been trying to tell you it was going to be Franks and you should temper your expectations for this season. The only way we get back to where we want to be is top 5 recruiting, that’s where we have to get.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 11:55 am to GatorBait24
No one "told" me something I didn't know. I literally said he was going to be named starter in this thread before he actually was, because it's inevitable. I take it hard because I've watched the film, I've diagnosed his severe deficiencies and I know that we just wasted another year when our WRs are potentially the best we've had in a decade.
I can't imagine we'll be landing very many receivers for the future once Franks trots out there and shows that we're an 70 - 80% running team.
I can't imagine we'll be landing very many receivers for the future once Franks trots out there and shows that we're an 70 - 80% running team.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Straws is holding Franks hostage for the results of 2017, and there were many blame sandwiches to be shared. You should not belittle Franks so much...your mental state isn't healthy Straws. Mullen isn't stupid, he chose Franks as the best QB to win now. I dint want Mullen as HC, but you didn't see me have a hissy fit....get over yourself Straws and act like a mature person.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:02 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You think we would be more pass-heavy with Trask?
Offense this season was always bound to be run-heavy.
Offense this season was always bound to be run-heavy.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:22 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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No one "told" me something I didn't know. I literally said he was going to be named starter in this thread before he actually was, because it's inevitable. I take it hard because I've watched the film, I've diagnosed his severe deficiencies and I know that we just wasted another year when our WRs are potentially the best we've had in a decade. I can't imagine we'll be landing very many receivers for the future once Franks trots out there and shows that we're an 70 - 80% running team
What you can’t seem to wrap your head around is, Trask isn’t any better, throwing against 2’s in a scrimmage doesn’t make him better. Mullen picked who he thought was best, do you really think you have more information than Mullen?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:30 pm to GatorBait24
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What you can’t seem to wrap your head around is, Trask isn’t any better, throwing against 2’s in a scrimmage doesn’t make him better. Mullen picked who he thought was best, do you really think you have more information than Mullen?
When they throw head to head and one of the QBs consistently beats out the other, I think it's a safe bet. I also broke down the Spring Game in their passes downfield.
I'm certain Mullen knows more than this entire board collectively with Quarterbacks, but I'm also certain that he won't be the first person to overestimate Franks.
Franks' hard drive is one play-action to the wrong side, bad pass over the middle, unforced fumble, running out of bounds from being broken, and a lot of people like to think that these guys just forget about the previous season but when Franks makes that mistake, we'll all see.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:32 pm to GatorsGators
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You think we would be more pass-heavy with Trask?
Offense this season was always bound to be run-heavy.
No, but I think Trask has a wider arsenal of passes than Franks, as detailed on the board for the O&B game. I don't necessarily think Trask is head and shoulders above Franks, but I know he's shown the capacity to at least see the field.
You don't complete 8 passes over 6 yards to zero if you can't see the field. Six of those 8 passes were over 10 yards.
I think the problem is that Franks' lack of downfield threat makes it harder to run, too, which is why this offense will likely not click.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:50 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I regularly listen to Jeff Prosser on 1010 XL. He is one of the few guys I believe has sources at UF. Last week he predicted Franks would be the starter. He stated that Trask “won” probably 55-60% of the practices. The thing that holds Trask back is he holds on the ball too long. He said that in a game Trask would get sacked a lot but in practice they would wave the defense off and let him go through his reads. Take all that for what it’s worth. I was a Trask fan too.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:56 pm to GatorsGators
I am rooting for a heavy run game. SPREAD AND SHRED.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:57 pm to olemc999
And that's more discouraging to read that he won that many practices (even with his damaged hand wearing a special glove).
That is my one fault against him is that he thinks he's playing Madden where you have like five seconds to look around. The only thing, though, is that it's much easier to teach:
Get rid of the ball.
Than:
Get rid of the ball.
(Pre) Read the defense.
(Post) Read the defense.
Footwork.
Vision.
Don't stare down your receiver.
Don't run out of bounds before the LOS.
Protect the ball while running.
Lower your pad level.
Shorten your strides.
Understand the pass protection.
Set up your OWN pass protection.
General Awareness.
I know Trask has his faults, but winning practice (like I predicted) should at the very least bought him an extra week.
Recruits hate, more than anything, to hear that someone is better but didn't get to start.
That is my one fault against him is that he thinks he's playing Madden where you have like five seconds to look around. The only thing, though, is that it's much easier to teach:
Get rid of the ball.
Than:
Get rid of the ball.
(Pre) Read the defense.
(Post) Read the defense.
Footwork.
Vision.
Don't stare down your receiver.
Don't run out of bounds before the LOS.
Protect the ball while running.
Lower your pad level.
Shorten your strides.
Understand the pass protection.
Set up your OWN pass protection.
General Awareness.
I know Trask has his faults, but winning practice (like I predicted) should at the very least bought him an extra week.
Recruits hate, more than anything, to hear that someone is better but didn't get to start.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 1:10 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
I think getting rid of the ball was something he could grow out of after getting some game reps in. What do I know though. I am just a fan.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 1:28 pm to olemc999
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What do I know though. I am just a fan.
Yeah, I think I will support the coaches on this one. We pay them to make these tough decisions. Let's all hope that they are correct. Go Gators.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 1:47 pm to olemc999
I mean, there are two ways to look at this:
We know verifiably that Trask practices better, or at least when they're in similar circumstances he outperforms Franks. So we can imagine that the staff probably knows that they are going to split snaps -- regardless of what Mullen said, I expect multiple QBs to play.
So, I assume that we will know of a real starter in a few weeks -- however, big however. If Franks falters again, one would imagine his tenure at Florida is done unless Trask is just as bad.
That being said, they could easily just be streamlining the inevitable.
We know verifiably that Trask practices better, or at least when they're in similar circumstances he outperforms Franks. So we can imagine that the staff probably knows that they are going to split snaps -- regardless of what Mullen said, I expect multiple QBs to play.
So, I assume that we will know of a real starter in a few weeks -- however, big however. If Franks falters again, one would imagine his tenure at Florida is done unless Trask is just as bad.
That being said, they could easily just be streamlining the inevitable.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Charleston Southern is bad. They shouldn't put any pressure on Florida offensively.
Their defense is "OK"
It really won't tell us much.
We'll know more after Kentucky.
I'll be fricking shocked if UF only starts 1 QB this season.
Their defense is "OK"
It really won't tell us much.
We'll know more after Kentucky.
I'll be fricking shocked if UF only starts 1 QB this season.
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