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re: Emory or Trask

Posted on 2/9/20 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
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Posted on 2/9/20 at 6:46 pm to
So you think Tebow should have started in 2006?

Emory Jones is NOT Tim Tebow. Also worth saying.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 7:04 pm to
Stop making up shite.
I said this offense is better with a dual threat QB as compared to a passer. Tebow and Dak prove that

What kind of QBs does Mullen recruit? Oh yeah, everyone of his QBs on the roster and committed all can run. Like I said, its undisputed what he wants to do and the type of QB he wants.
Love how you guys get all offended lol

You can simply like the better fit without saying Trask cant play. Stop acting like I said that, because i didnt.
My first post was if we were a pass heavy team, Id take Kyle.
This post was edited on 2/9/20 at 7:12 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/9/20 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

Easily Trask's worst game of the season imo not counting that first half vs SC.




He threw for over 300 yards in the UVA game and nearly had 350 yards of total offense.

You have to use the first half of the USC game because he totaled 4 touchdown passes in the drenching rain.

So if his worst games are those where he threw for 300 yards and had 4 touchdowns, I'll take that over what Emory has done thus far.

Especially since those four touchdown passes matches the entire output of Emory throughout the year.

Emory doesn't have enough pros to tell Trask to look for another school to play at, but this is the same fan base that treated Feleipe like a stray dog that couldn't do any wrong because he just di'n't know no better.
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
12527 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 7:49 am to
quote:

We just had the best qb play we’ve seen in forever and you want to bench the guy for an unproven back up just because he can run?


This pretty much sums it up, Gator fans, gotta love em.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:33 am to
quote:

He threw for over 300 yards in the UVA game and nearly had 350 yards of total offense.


Lol all you want, we saw the game. Everyone here was asking if he was playing hurt his passes were off so bad. Like I said, easily his worst game.
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
14570 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:50 am to
Well you will get Emory in 2021 and the rest of us get Trask in 2020. Win win for everyone.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 11:41 am to
quote:

Well you will get Emory in 2021 and the rest of us get Trask in 2020. Win win for everyone.


Trask this year
Anthony Richardson 2021

IMO
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 12:52 pm to
That's a hot take, I think it'll be Emory but I do believe Anthony Richardson is better and most certainly has a higher ceiling.

Kid is flat out dangerous. Amazing athlete, nerd in the QB Room.

It's going to be interesting when we finally have three Quarterbacks who can all run the offense, so injuries are completely mitigated.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 1:39 pm to
No. It's because some people actually listen to people who break down film and explain that Trask simply followed the system. Mullen is an absolutely brilliant play caller. You morons got mad at him for the Georgia game, yet have no understanding of just how amazing he has been here.

Trask simply followed the system well. He takes the first option of the play a majority of the time. If not he takes the second. Very, very, very rarely does he ever progress further. Most of his check down reads were designed check downs, not actual check downs.

The point is simple. Trask is limited. He does not have an elite arm, his footwork is still really poor which leads to bad throws, and he forced a lot of balls that should have been intercepted, including three vs Virginia(they just suck at football). He was better than Franks, because he didn't panic and was very good at staying to script.

Jones can do this same thing. Except he has a better arm, tighter mechanics, and ability to run. The negative to Jones is do we know if he can handle pressure like Trask did, and can he get to his second read quickly. If he can he literally is doing what Trask did most pass plays right there.

Jones gives us an edge in the run game that is invaluable, and his ability to throw better deep balls also helps spread out the defense(Georgia loaded up 20 yards and in knowing Trask couldn't beat them deep).

Trask is a VERY good system QB.

But he isn't more than that right now

Jones CAN be more than that, which is why I'd prefer him start. Trask can lead us to 10 regular season wins next year no doubt, but is he talented enough to take us to the playoffs? He has a lot of work to get there, and if he does then great. Just see the upside being substantially greater with Jones(which is why he was so highly touted, his arm and running ability).
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:43 pm to
Trask is 10th in Total QBR.

15th in normal QBR.

7th according to 247 for returning Quarterbacks.

1st in returning SEC Quarterbacks.

He did this with limited and honestly, for most of the year, zero run support.

You are off your rocker, anyone calling for Emory over Trask is.

And holy frick did you guys cape for Franks for years to not be benched despite his severe limitations, and now you guys want to bench the best passing Quarterback since Rex Grossman?

DKSAQB.

quote:

Very rarely looks beyond his first read.


This is the entire college football system, the point is that you have favorable matchups pre-snap and find them, but to say that Trask doesn't read the field has got to be the most retarded thing I've seen on this board for a while.

This is easily one of the stupidest takes you've had on this forum.
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 2:46 pm
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
12527 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 2:56 pm to
There is no way hell that Mullen plays Jones ahead of Trask after the year he had in 2019. It would take an injury or a terrible spring and summer for Trask to not start in 2020, although I believe that Jones will get more playing time next season with special packages, etc. Trask deserves the job leading into 2020, Gator fans just need to support him. Jones will get his chance to start in 2021.

IMO, it's a waste of time having this discussion, but it is the off season.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

It's going to be interesting when we finally have three Quarterbacks who can all run the offense

So you admit Trask cant run the offense, which is all we’ve been saying this entire thread. Now you guys can stop being offended that ppl would like to see the guy who has the ability to use the entire playbook over the guy who cant.

Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 5:04 pm to
SO let me get this straight.

If you were the head coach at Florida...

You would BENCH Kyle Trask...
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

This is the entire college football system, the point is that you have favorable matchups pre-snap and find them, but to say that Trask doesn't read the field has got to be the most retarded thing I've seen on this board for a while.

This is easily one of the stupidest takes you've had on this forum.


Agree with this 100%.

The guy was great reading the field most of the time last year.

So much of this thread just makes me scratch my head...

Most reasonable gator fans were banging their head against a wall when Jones came in last year...
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 5:33 pm to
Players dont get benched in the offseason. They get beat out

Open comp. Best man wins.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Agree with this 100%.

The guy was great reading the field most of the time last year.


It's literally the worst take of the off-season and won't be trumped.

(Responding to a question from another poster.)

quote:

So you don't think Trask fits the system?


No, but I don't think he needs to fit it to be successful.

I know he doesn't.

Emory Jones means we have two bodies who can run Mullen's specific offense. Not any offense, his offense.

Anthony Richardson has never played a down of college ball and Emory Jones has never played an entire game -- we have no idea how many hits he can take.

If he ran like he did last year, no way does he last an entire season without getting injured. He got banged up several times, and in the end:

We simply do not have the personnel to run the offense like Mullen wants. If Trask gets injured, great, put in Emory and let him shine.

Then if Emory gets injured, at least we have a guy that can hand the ball off and occasionally throw it but hopefully that's after a few games that can get the kid some reps.

If Emory starts, there's no Kyle Trask, no Kyle Trask that means Anthony is splitting snaps in the beginning of the year all the way through and it means that he's susceptible to injury because his passing is no where near as sharp as his running.

You guys are just wrong, you have no ground to stand on, it's the off-season but this isn't even a debate.

It will be Trask, suck it up and enjoy another 10+ win season (easy).
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:41 pm to
If jones beats him out so be it I guess. That’s a pretty high bar tho.

How likely is that though?
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

You guys are just wrong, you have no ground to stand on,

quote:

So you don't think Trask fits the system?


No,


Here ya go. Your words. Which is what Ive been saying since my first post on this subject. So, thanks for agreeing
This post was edited on 2/10/20 at 6:49 pm
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

That’s a pretty high bar tho.


Based on??
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 2/10/20 at 9:30 pm to
You don't think Trask set a high bar last year?
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