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boXerrumble
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Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
UGA coaches look overmatched.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
Team wasn't ready and that offense requires too much precision to have mistakes. This is a bad look, though. Texas was kind of a middle of the road BIG team.


Daddyof4
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
We’ve had 3 teams shite the bed against bad 12 teams. It’s disappointing.


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boXerrumble
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
Kirby looks confused and Chaney’s play calling is very predictable


olemc999
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
Kirby is a recruiter not a head coach. He relies on getting top 5 talent and running basic schemes and out talenting his opponents. The second he goes up against a team as talented as his or more talented he is screwed.

Kirby will take a top 5 class and coach them down to 10-15th.

Mullen will take top 15 classes and get us in the top 5.

Kirby is luckier version of Zook who caught the SEC east at a better time.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
I was going to say he was a lot like Muschamp, but Zook definitely was a better recruiter.

The biggest problem with head coaches like him is that they lack the creativity to keep up with modern football. The ONLY thing Kirby has going for him right now is that the East was extremely weak (as you pointed out) in that traditional football schools aren't as good as they used to be.

I am extremely confident that if Georgia played Florida next week, we might give them a very difficult game if not outright beat them.

What I like about Mullen is that we consistently see improvements at every position, and I was going to make a thread but I'll just say it here:

Go rewatch the Michigan game and watch how well we tackled. Every single fundamental available was enhanced from game one to our bowl.

I have no idea how it's taken so many people so long to realize Kirby is a fraud -- I've been screaming about it for years ever since 8 - 5 and it seems like everyone was hell-bent on talking about how great a coach he was.

I never saw it.


olemc999
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
8-5 ain’t really a big deal when it’s your first year ever as a head coach. I started to question his coaching ability when he lost to Auburn bad last year but then he made up for it by beating them again in the SECCG. Then he had that huge comeback in the Rose Bowl against OU and I was like “oh shite this guy is for real” then he had Saban in the ropes in the NC. Where I came to the conclusion on him his how his teams just come out unprepared and unmotivated. LSU this year was bad for him. That fake punt was laughable and then this game right here lead me to the belief the man is just a damn good recruiter.

He peaked in that Rose Bowl against OU. Even then OUs defense wasn’t any good and that was Lincoln Riley’s first year as a HC.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
He's not even a great recruiter, anyone can throw money at recruits. Richt didn't inspire the boosters, so they didn't play ball. Kirby comes in and they want to start the handshakes and in a time where Georgia football is at its peak. Put him at Georgia Tech, he'll recruit like Georgia Tech. He walked into an extremely favorable position at Georgia and it shows every time he plays a team with a pulse and gets the absolute brakes beaten off of him.

In 2016 he lost to 5 different teams that Georgia outrecruited regularly. Proof.

Georgia fans LOVE to pretend like he came in and took over a struggling program, but fact of the matter is: if Dabo, Mullen, Meyer or even a guy like Kiffin took over Georgia, they might be unstoppable.

We're just very fortunate they elected to go with a guy who had no experience.


reel_gator8
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
You cannot judge coaching at UGA by the Sugar Bowl, that was a shell of a team that showed up....too many selfish players protecting their pro potential and the team was flat as hell.

Not saying Smart is a good coach or anything...but he knew before kickoff that the team had no juice at all. There is no way no how UT is better that UGA. All the missed tackles and really a dead fish look on the sideline. But this is one of the perils of signing a lot of 4 & 5 star athletes who feel entitled...Saban knows to manage them, obviously Smart doesn't. Too many prima donnas and the locker room goes south...Saban doesn't put up with any bull shite.


boXerrumble
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
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Not saying Smart is a good coach or anything...but he knew before kickoff that the team had no juice at all. There is no way no how UT is better that UGA. All the missed tackles and really a dead fish look on the sideline.


Thats on Kirby. You don't see Saban teams ever melting down on Twitter and commenting about other teams before big games.

UGA fans thinking Kirby is as good as Saban are VERY mistaken.


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UFMatt
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
but we should be in the playoffs...........


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dbuchanon
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
If not for #12 being in over his head, we probably beat these scrubs year one with Dan. He was the weak link they went at when they needed a play or score.

It is what it is, just my .02
They were lucky


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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
quote:

You cannot judge coaching at UGA by the Sugar Bowl, that was a shell of a team that showed up....too many selfish players protecting their pro potential and the team was flat as hell.



I'm not judging it by one game, and what infuriates me about your style is that you seem only interested in what you want to talk about.

His first year there he took over a team with a top six talent composite and lost five games to teams with lesser talent.

His second year he got blown out by Auburn and was fortunate to get a second bite at the apple.

This year he was blown out by LSU and was fortunate to get a second bite at the apple.

Kirby is easily the most overrated coach in the SEC if not in the entire country. If you put him at Mississippi State or any middle-rung P5 team we would be talking about him like he were Joe Moorehead -- almost never.

Him not controlling his players on social media is the indication you need that he can't get them to concentrate and it makes sense -- HE can't concentrate in games. 4th and 11 at his own midfield with the game on the line and he runs a fake punt with the #1 player in the last recruiting cycle who has never been on the field in that situation before...

Against a base defense.

Dude is not a good coach, and all of the shite you're saying right now is the exact same thing we said before Muschamp's epic collapse.
This post was edited on 1/2 at 3:05 pm


reel_gator8
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
Straws, you misread me a lot....but that's ok. I am only making comments about 1 game...period...it pisses me off to see a SEC team lose to a big twelve school.

All I am saying is that UGA is much better than UT...just look at 2 games with Bama and you know UGA is a better product than UT. The selfish nature of players on the sidelines who could have helped UGA win the game really pisses me. Michigan had a similar problem and LSU almost lot to ucf because of selfish players.

Im much older and its sad to see what college football has become. Next year there will be questions aplenty on the subject of who's playing in bowl games. Our team was fortunate to have total 110% buy in.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
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I am only making comments about 1 game...period


That's fine, you responded to me.

I wasn't talking about one game. You also said that we couldn't judge him by one game, I wasn't.

UGA was not better than UT, that's all that matters. Name one team that Kirby has beaten that had a better team composite than he did.

I can name three for Mullen this year. LSU, FSU and Michigan.

Just name one, reel.

Obviously Mullen also lost to several times with less talent (UK and MIZZOU) but at least we have "new scheme" to fall on with Mullen operating with pieces he didn't recruit. That worked in year 1 for Kirby, doesn't work in year three.


olemc999
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
I actually have been working on creating my own metrical stat for grading how a coach performs relative to the talent he has on his team. I call it TIRTCO (talent input relative to coaching output). When we get the final season rankings I will grade the SEC coaches and put it here.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
This place really needs a lot of OC, I look forward to it.


olemc999
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
Thanks bro

I look forward to unveiling the stat when we get the final CFB rankings of the year. Reveal the formula and the list. If you guys like it a lot. I might even start my own website and do my own unofficial coach of the year for CFB and conferences.

If you go by my system, Army’s coach Jeff Monken would of won it in a land slide this year

Just need those final rankings.


dbuchanon
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
Coach Monken is good.


olemc999
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re: Anyone watching the Sugar Bowl?
He is about to go on a 10 game win streak vs Navy.


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