re: 2019 Recruiting Thread: Return of the Mullen. Updated 10/30.

My bad. I thought they were talking about the program as a whole. They're nuts if they think this class is that low on blue chippers. Are they using ESPN or some other junk site?

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No, they foolishly used an algorithm that determined that the ratio of blue chip players was virtually the same and used that to say that 'on field results don't mean anything'.

Of course, it got amended because winning over time clearly, demonstrably, shows that teams who win generally recruit better than those who do not.

Just to clarify:

They said that August 1st would determine the blue chip ratio of NSD. Obviously, we will not end with 25% blue chips unless something bad happens.

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From what little attention I pay to those guys, they have a point why UF sucks and they find a stat to back that up. Worked extremely well with shark fricker.

That's the thing, their #s are great but football isn't about direct numbers. I FULLY trust Mullen with the 9th ranked class vs. Georgia having a top 5 class. The numbers aren't that extreme from a highly rated 4* to a 5*. I prefer a refined 4* to an undeveloped 5* (see: Martez Ivey this year, well, all of his career).

To the podcast: The vast majority of them were beating war drums for people to panic, and then when Mullen started cleaning up shop on the field, suddenly it's time to go back and change some predictions.

Top ten recruiting with Mullen, getting his recruits, will do great things for Florida. Especially seeing as how he could pretty much up the production on every single offensive position.

Defense we knew was going to be tough because of depth, but I've seen MSST. I know he's going to be okay once he gets guys that fit the scheme.

tl;dr: Podcasts shouldn't tell people to panic until afterward.

I may be wrong, but I don’t think Clemson or Auburn have had a top 5 class in the 4 years leading up to their championships.

I think Clemson broke the trend. I'll have to find the article but that may just be a wild goose chase at this point since it was from 2-3 years ago.

Too many ppl get caught up in a ranking. It doesnt mean shite. Its about the needs you fill

Bama signs three stars... maybe just a few...but they can turn out very well if you scouted correctly and developed them. The NFL is full of 3 stars.

This is basically right. Florida’s starters this year and comparable to Georgia’s starters. This will be true this year and in the next couple of years. The difference now, and for the next couple of years until Mullen gets elite classes in, is that Georgia has more depth.

Chris Henderson gets hurt, Marco Wilson gets hurt, and we were fricked against Georgia. When you recruit like Alabama and Georgia and Ohio state, you have a drop off naturally, but you have talented depth behind those guys. Not Chris McWilliams running around. We’re going to recruit well enough to have starters that can compete with anybody (maybe not Bama).

The key is recruiting at an elite enough level that we have depth that can compete for 4 quarters through a long season, so that an injury here and there doesn’t derail us and so we don’t fade down the stretch. That’s why decent to good recruiting has gotten us to where we’re at right now. Take the next step to consistently getting elite guys and top classes, and all of a sudden we have the depth to compete with anybody. That’s how you get Cam Newton backing up Tim Tebow, Riley Cooper and Louis Murphy playing special teams, etc. We have the coach that can scheme with Kirby, Saban, Meyer, and anybody else in the country. If he can get us the players here he can win championships.

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They take their relative and abstract number and claim if the recruiting class isn’t ranked x then it’s not successful and we should shut the program down.

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People refuse to acknowledge that Bama is a huge outlier in terms of recruiting rankings and championships. If you were to strike Bama from history when they had #1 8 years in a row or whatever and award all their titles to the runner up or replay the rankings, things would look vastly different. Teams like Washington, Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Notre Dame, etc might have easily won with merely very good rankings, but nothing like what we've seen.

I refuse to believe that Bama's recruiting is the only reason they win like they do. Plays a big part, but the rest of their program is so far ahead of the curve, they would dominate just as much if they averaged 3-4 less blue chip recruits every year.

You are hating on Kirby? Isn’t he like 24-3 in the last 2 years?