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re: 2019 Recruiting Thread: Return of the Mullen. Updated 10/30.

Posted on 6/2/18 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/2/18 at 12:23 pm to
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The JUCO 2018 TE Lucas Kroll is the most likely to commit out of this weekend's visitors IMO.


We really need help at that position too.

Lucas Krull, former baseball player now switching to Tight End. He's got the size for it.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/2/18 at 7:45 pm to
Yeah, Stingley definitely on campus too. Just posted a picture in the Gators uniform (all whites) and doing the chomp. Please let Orgeron blow this.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 2:45 pm to
Uncle Silkk says that Krull is the strongest TE on campus and he isn't even on the roster yet.

He's supposedly going to decide next week but I think he's 95% coming to Florida. Said he loved his visit.

Steele said Florida is way ahead of everyone else right now, Stingley has been quiet (for obvious reasons).
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 8:54 pm to
Another big recruiting weekend, another bust.

I'm trying to be patient but it really sucks to see the ease that other programs appear to have getting "I'm committed to (blank)" instead of "I liked the visit". In just this one single area, this spring has been eerily similar to the McElwain era.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 9:42 pm to
The biggest targets we hosted were Stingley (LSU lock) and Steele who still has visits left to take. You have to look at it from a different perspective than “well, another major weekend with no commitments”. Most of these kids aren’t looking to commit right now, in fact, recruiting doesn’t start these days until December really.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 10:10 pm to
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Most of these kids aren’t looking to commit right now


And yet, of the 9 SEC programs in front of us, 6 of them have 10+ commits. Its called recruiting and not picking for a reason.

Everything else about Mullen's short tenure gives me a lot more confidence than under McElwain, but I can't help but feel deja vu with beat writers spinning banal complements into the equivalent of a half dozen committed blue chips. Wasn't Mullen supposed to be someone who carried some regional cache with recruits, so they wouldn't be committing to an unknown?
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30606 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 10:35 pm to
All I can really look at factually is last years finish. He did pretty well. I’ll know more by the end of this cycle.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/3/18 at 10:36 pm to
This is the thing: There are several recruits that we lead for, not just lead for, who would probably go public if they could get the green light. There are even a few who are in group chats with Florida Commitments (I'm not going to name them specifically, because I feel like they want it private) and just think of it like this:

McElwain had the #1 class for 2019 and 2020 before he got fired -- what would most of you had said if we thumped our chests about that now? I'd wager most of you would shite all over him like normal, and the narrative would be "oh well, it's really early, who cares?"

It's the same concept right now. We have to relax and understand that the targets we're going after are not Florida locks, and they were not Florida locks when we went after them. UGA was ranked 50th until maybe the middle of the season last year.

Summer is stupid, and people who commit this early usually don't stick unless the stars aligned and they weren't looking at other schools -- right now we're getting top tier talent on campus and they're all enjoying themselves and have a lot more respect for Mullen than they ever had for McElwain.

You'll likely feel stupid in December.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37932 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 10:56 pm to
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McElwain had the #1 class for 2019 and 2020 before he got fired

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/3/18 at 10:59 pm to
Yep. They probably never would have remained and it would have fallen apart, but recruiting rankings before December don't mean jack shite.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 7:24 am to
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You'll likely feel stupid in December


My barometer for a good bump class all along has just been top 10. I assumed we would finish between 6-8, too many variables and other contenders to demand top 5 in any given year. I don't think that's unreasonable.

Current top 10: Bama, A&M, OU, USC, Clemson, Michigan, Miami, FSU, Notre Dame, Georgia.

Bama, A&M, Clemson, Michigan, and Georgia are all absolute locks. Texas and Ohio State are currently outside the top 10, but they are also absolute locks.

That leaves 3 spots left in the top 10 for: OU, FSU, Miami, ND, Penn State, Auburn, Tennessee, Southern Cal, LSU, South Carolina, and of course, UF. Do you feel like we're currently positioned to have a stronger close than 8 of those programs? Right now I'd peg us at about average of those groups, which is closer to 12-14 than top 10. Not bad in any given year, not doom and gloom for Mullen's tenure, but certainly not a class that sells us on "the future is now".
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37932 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 8:31 am to
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Do you feel like we're currently positioned to have a stronger close than 8 of those programs?

that all depends on the how the season goes. at the end of the day, good players want to play for a winning program. florida isn't a winning program right now.

Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 2:40 pm to
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that all depends on the how the season goes. at the end of the day, good players want to play for a winning program. florida isn't a winning program right now.


Most people forget that UGA was sitting uncomfortably at 43rd around this time and UGA fans were panicking in 2017. A good season will cure everything and the difference between Mullen and some other recent coaches is that he didn't inherit a winning program, and this program hasn't really been winning since 2009.

If he has a markedly good season, we're good. If not, he's going to need to rebuild after a few years and it won't be pretty.

The only thing I know is that when Emory and Jalon are ready, we're going to have a rock solid offense.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12738 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Another big recruiting weekend, another bust. I'm trying to be patient but it really sucks to see the ease that other programs appear to have getting "I'm committed to (blank)" instead of "I liked the visit". In just this one single area, this spring has been eerily similar to the McElwain era.


Mullen has the same boring personality and isn’t a great recruiter like Mac . Just like Mac , Mullen will need to win players on the recruiting trail with the teams offensive play . The good thing about Mullen is that he has won with good QB play While Mac always out talented the his opponents when he had Saban recruits.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:04 pm to
Man, you guys really don't follow recruiting at all. He's had 10 times the blue chips on campus that McElwain did all three years combined. I told you guys not to expect commitments until the season started, the recruits he's after weren't favoring Florida at first.

You guys could wait until he coaches one game to start shitting on him.
Posted by Louisiana Gator
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2012
700 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 10:58 pm to
Mullen isn't a great recruiter like Mac? This truly blows my mind. How do you get that Mac was a great recruiter? He was a mediocre recruiter. Mullen hasn't gotten the big splashes yet but it is coming. Look at all of the top recruits coming to visit. That never happened under Mac.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 6/4/18 at 11:37 pm to
He is MURDERING McElwain for visits. Murdering. Straight up, cold-blooded murder. He'll have a higher class than any of McElwain's this year, people just have to realize that it's June and it's around half a year before any of these commitments actually matter.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 6:20 am to
Just an example of instant gratification in society has a whole leaking into the college football and college football recruiting world. When things don’t instantly change (which I would even argue, things have instantly changed since Mullen arrived) and results don’t instantly show themselves, people get frustrated. It is what it is. I do think you guys will like some news you read today
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:21 am to
There it is, four star DT Jaelin Humphries commits to the Gators
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 6/5/18 at 8:35 am to
Maybe there is something with that All White BS!
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