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re: South Carolina Coaching Search Thread
Posted on 11/24/20 at 3:17 pm to TaterMashinCock
Posted on 11/24/20 at 3:17 pm to TaterMashinCock
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 3:34 pm to Lonnie Utah
Damn!
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 4:03 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Behold
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Posted on 11/24/20 at 4:35 pm to Lonnie Utah
Atlanta Sports Guy. That douche is still acting like an insider 
Posted on 11/24/20 at 6:44 pm to theGarnetWay
Funny how that guy looks and acts just like Dumbo.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 2:03 pm to Lonnie Utah
The latest: Neal Brown is emerging as a strong candidate and will likely get an interview. In the past I stated that Freeze was ruled out, I can state right now that is not the case, he is being STRONGLY considered. Also Matt Campbell has been approached and will be pursued heavily down the stretch.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:02 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Funny how that guy looks and acts just like Dumbo.
Can he coach like him?
Posted on 11/28/20 at 5:03 pm to Gamecock Steve
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In the past I stated that Freeze was ruled out, I can state right now that is not the case, he is being STRONGLY considered.
preciate the info.
"a rising tide raises all boats"- Ray Tanner
I suspect Bob Caslen is thinking
"it can also sink boats".
it will be interesting to hear what the 'behind the scenes' was like for the search process once Carolina hires its next football coach.
Posted on 11/28/20 at 7:48 pm to 1801
I get that we’re thin, but can we go ahead and fire Trob?
Posted on 11/28/20 at 8:00 pm to Cockopotamus
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can we go ahead and fire Trob?
I think because we are waiting for Southern Miss to hire him
Why fire him when they can pay us to take him?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 10:20 am to I Bleed Garnet
So is it looking like Beamer?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:04 am to I Bleed Garnet
Beamer has a good chance, however a final decision has not been made. Beamer has had the best PR throughout all this, so many articles and people trying to convince everyone that hiring Beamer is good or that a consensus has been reached. I am not one for conspiracy theories but the whole thing seems weird to me for a guy with no experience as a HC before.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:26 am to Gamecock Steve
Beamer should have been the choice over Muschamp last time.
He should be option 4 or 5, not number 1
He should be option 4 or 5, not number 1
Posted on 11/29/20 at 11:40 am to Gamecock Steve
I have a bad feeling passing on Chadwell is gonna be a bad idea in the long term
Posted on 11/29/20 at 1:40 pm to Cockopotamus
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He should be option 4 or 5, not number 1
What if options 1-3 said no?
Posted on 11/29/20 at 2:00 pm to Cockopotamus
quote:a decision has not been made, other candidates are being pursued and will be interviewed including Neal Brown, don't listen to what Kornblutt or any other person claiming Beamer is a done deal says. He may very well be coach but that decision has not been made.
Beamer should have been the choice over Muschamp last time.
He should be option 4 or 5, not number 1
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:32 pm to Gamecock Steve
Beamer shouldn’t be considered at all. He’d honestly be worse than Monken.
Look the top three choices are Chadwell, Freeze and Napier in that order. Go through them, if they say no then call up Heupel. If he says no, then go back to the top 3 and add another 10-20% to your offer until one of them says yes. If it’s still a no then call up Bill Clark. If we can’t pry him away then we call up Norvell and see if wants to pull the chute from FSU or look at non Southeast candidates like Brohm, Brown, or Wilson. Then Monken.
Beamer is pointless and the only reason why his name is brought up here is because he was a decent ST coach a decade ago. Literally no other P5 program worth a shite is looking at him.
Look the top three choices are Chadwell, Freeze and Napier in that order. Go through them, if they say no then call up Heupel. If he says no, then go back to the top 3 and add another 10-20% to your offer until one of them says yes. If it’s still a no then call up Bill Clark. If we can’t pry him away then we call up Norvell and see if wants to pull the chute from FSU or look at non Southeast candidates like Brohm, Brown, or Wilson. Then Monken.
Beamer is pointless and the only reason why his name is brought up here is because he was a decent ST coach a decade ago. Literally no other P5 program worth a shite is looking at him.
Posted on 11/29/20 at 9:40 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Beamer shouldn’t be considered at all. He’d honestly be worse than Monken.
Look the top three choices are Chadwell, Freeze and Napier in that order. Go through them, if they say no then call up Heupel. If he says no, then go back to the top 3 and add another 10-20% to your offer until one of them says yes. If it’s still a no then call up Bill Clark. If we can’t pry him away then we call up Norvell and see if wants to pull the chute from FSU or look at non Southeast candidates like Brohm, Brown, or Wilson. Then Monken.
Beamer is pointless and the only reason why his name is brought up here is because he was a decent ST coach a decade ago. Literally no other P5 program worth a shite is looking at him.
Couldn’t have said it better myself baw/bro
Hope you and the fam had a wonderful thanksgiving
Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:19 am to TheeRealCarolina
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Beamer shouldn’t be considered at all. He’d honestly be worse than Monken
Here’s where I disagree with you. Let me say this first, he is not my first choice. He’s option 3 or 4 for me. My number one choice is Chadwell, and that’s well known. But Beamer does bring one thing that is helpful: he knows what to look for in a coach since he’s had his hand in all aspects on offense/defense outside of QB and he’s great with special teams and recruiting. Keep Shaw on as QB coach and I’d get behind it easy.
That being said, I want chadwell and the gogo option offense here with Doty, lloyd, and Harris.
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:30 am to clhawkins19
I have a few problems with the Beamer hire, but the biggest problem I have with it is simple. There are better and more qualified candidates available. Period. You don't fire Muschamp and spend 14 million on a buy out to go out and hire a guy that "wants the job badly" Now is not the time to experiment.
Another large issue with Beamer is that he will always be reliant on hiring ELITE level coordinators to be successful. The CEO coach model works sometimes, but it keeps the pressure on the program to spend a ton of money on coordinators and hope it works every time.
Look at LSU. Yes they won a title last year, but the talent level was absolutely insane (historically good) and Ogeron had arguable the 2 top assistants in college football. (Aranda and Brady)
They lose both of them and he makes 1 bad hire (Pelini) and now look at what you have. A team in total disarray heading for a 3-7 season coming off a title. And bc Ogeron has never been a coordinator and doesn't possess the football acumen to outscheme other teams himself, the only answer he has is to try and hire new guys.
South Carolina needs a guy that when rubber meets the road can make it work regardless of coordinator, talent level, etc.
That's Freeze. Period. You have to make him say no. And if he does then go all in for Napier, Brown, Sarkisian, or Chadwell in that order.
If all of them say no, then Beamer.
Another large issue with Beamer is that he will always be reliant on hiring ELITE level coordinators to be successful. The CEO coach model works sometimes, but it keeps the pressure on the program to spend a ton of money on coordinators and hope it works every time.
Look at LSU. Yes they won a title last year, but the talent level was absolutely insane (historically good) and Ogeron had arguable the 2 top assistants in college football. (Aranda and Brady)
They lose both of them and he makes 1 bad hire (Pelini) and now look at what you have. A team in total disarray heading for a 3-7 season coming off a title. And bc Ogeron has never been a coordinator and doesn't possess the football acumen to outscheme other teams himself, the only answer he has is to try and hire new guys.
South Carolina needs a guy that when rubber meets the road can make it work regardless of coordinator, talent level, etc.
That's Freeze. Period. You have to make him say no. And if he does then go all in for Napier, Brown, Sarkisian, or Chadwell in that order.
If all of them say no, then Beamer.
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 8:32 am
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