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Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 2/12/19 at 11:26 pm
Did Wooden's buddy--a big UCLA fan and rich backer--literally steal Abdul Jabbar (aka Lew Alcindor) from Frank McGuire? Rooster?
Bob Knight has accused Wooden of doing just that.
Bob Knight has accused Wooden of doing just that.
This post was edited on 2/12/19 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 2/13/19 at 2:46 am to CocknDawg
Doubt youll get an answer, rooster doesnt post here anymore. It was a bunch of bullshite, but things happened, and rooster said he was leaving. Happened about 1.5 months ago, maybe more, but he hasnt been back.
This post was edited on 2/13/19 at 2:48 am
Posted on 2/13/19 at 6:44 am to mikeboss550
I don't know the story as to why rooster left. The last I saw was some back and forth about Brad Lawing. Hate to see posters leave unless they are a$$ hats. I know he is still active on a few other boards.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 6:59 am to mikeboss550
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and rooster said he was leaving.
He'll be back. We all always come back.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 8:59 am to CocknDawg
Rooster is on the Poliboard regularly. You may want to try a reply in one of those threads.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 10:04 am to SCLibertarian
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Rooster is on the Poliboard regularly. You may want to try a reply in one of those threads.
Your opinion of rooster may be deeply impacted by the stuff he says on the Poliboard.
Posted on 2/13/19 at 10:42 am to SCLibertarian
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Poliboard
This site has one of those?
shite. It's got everything!
Posted on 2/13/19 at 3:15 pm to CocknDawg
The person you are referring to is Sam Gilbert aka Papa Sam.
Check out Blue Chips as a fictionalized (or maybe not) account of Wooden and Gilbert.
Interesting read about Wooden, Gilbert, and UCLA from Bill Walton LINK
“UCLA players were so well taken care of – far beyond the ground rules of the NCAA – that even players from poor backgrounds never left UCLA prematurely (for pro basketball) during John Wooden’s championship years.
“If the UCLA teams of the late 1960s and early 1970s were subjected to the kind of scrutiny (other schools) have been, UCLA would probably have to forfeit about eight national championships and be on probation for the next 100 years. - Bill Walton former UCLA great
Check out Blue Chips as a fictionalized (or maybe not) account of Wooden and Gilbert.
Interesting read about Wooden, Gilbert, and UCLA from Bill Walton LINK
“UCLA players were so well taken care of – far beyond the ground rules of the NCAA – that even players from poor backgrounds never left UCLA prematurely (for pro basketball) during John Wooden’s championship years.
“If the UCLA teams of the late 1960s and early 1970s were subjected to the kind of scrutiny (other schools) have been, UCLA would probably have to forfeit about eight national championships and be on probation for the next 100 years. - Bill Walton former UCLA great
Posted on 2/13/19 at 10:32 pm to CocknDawg
I’m just going to say I think Wooden’s run is a bit overrated.
Sure what he did was great but it was a different tourney back then with different rules
In this common age of NCAA, nova winning 2 in 3 years is pretty damn impressive
Sure what he did was great but it was a different tourney back then with different rules
In this common age of NCAA, nova winning 2 in 3 years is pretty damn impressive
Posted on 2/14/19 at 8:01 am to I Bleed Garnet
FWIW Scrooter was in my fart thread on the OTL but the thread has vanished now so what position you piss in is an acceptable thread but farting and blaming it on the dog is not. Did they fear Scrooster's post for his age old wisdom? Was there a Cock bias tho SC is not a threat to the LSU + TAMU + Tide love triangle?
Imagine if Kentucky had an unregulated Papa Sam and the run they would have accomplished!
As for the Biggie Smalls vs Tupac debate in college basketball...
East coast dominated college basketball back in the day. Bee is the only long term coach with a better winning percentage than Rupp but who knows who he is today? Nova has always had good basketball just they were stuck in the same conference with Georgetown, Saint John's, Syracuse, and others.
1950's
NCAA comes down hard on CBB in the east coast and shifts control of power to Beyers (a 30 year dictatorship) and Indiana basketball benefits from the demise in the East. Wooden was born in Indiana and played in the B1G for Purdue and coached at Indiana State (where Larry Bird played). He goes to UCLA where he is a good but not great coach (about a decade or so)
1960's
Papa Sam shows up on campus and is a known criminal and suddenly UCLA under Wooden goes from .645 to .940 almost overnight. Everybody knew this including Wooden (tho he always acted like he was unaware) including the NCAA, yet they never press the point. Was there East Coast vs West coast bias? Knowingly, with B1G ties, did Beyers look the other way because it was Wooden and not Rupp? SEC was equally disliked by the east, west, and midwest even back then.
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Wooden’s run is a bit overrated.
Imagine if Kentucky had an unregulated Papa Sam and the run they would have accomplished!
As for the Biggie Smalls vs Tupac debate in college basketball...
East coast dominated college basketball back in the day. Bee is the only long term coach with a better winning percentage than Rupp but who knows who he is today? Nova has always had good basketball just they were stuck in the same conference with Georgetown, Saint John's, Syracuse, and others.
1950's
NCAA comes down hard on CBB in the east coast and shifts control of power to Beyers (a 30 year dictatorship) and Indiana basketball benefits from the demise in the East. Wooden was born in Indiana and played in the B1G for Purdue and coached at Indiana State (where Larry Bird played). He goes to UCLA where he is a good but not great coach (about a decade or so)
1960's
Papa Sam shows up on campus and is a known criminal and suddenly UCLA under Wooden goes from .645 to .940 almost overnight. Everybody knew this including Wooden (tho he always acted like he was unaware) including the NCAA, yet they never press the point. Was there East Coast vs West coast bias? Knowingly, with B1G ties, did Beyers look the other way because it was Wooden and not Rupp? SEC was equally disliked by the east, west, and midwest even back then.
Posted on 2/14/19 at 5:58 pm to GetCocky11
Just read the post on rant between you and rooster about me. I had not said one word about him since he left and let it go. I will respond to his post
1st: I have give rooster respect and props on this board and on Cockytalk so its not like I was always poking him.
2nd: He said the oranges we were to get was flipping Hopper and getting chris steele and we got neither. I've been call Sorrells for ever.
3rd: He 100% absolutely does not know who I am so not sure where that comes from.
Again I have no problem with anyone on here, including rooster. I respect his loyalty that he has shown the school.
As CG can attest I caught hell from everyone when I came on here and the initiation trial went on for weeks. I've seen a post by rooster , in the same recruiting thread, where he questions someones sexuality and ask if they are transsexual for not agreeing with him so I figured he could handle a little poking. I know different now so my fault.
Last I do not agree with bor would I ever on purpose talk any thing negative about another Gamecock fan on the Rant.
1st: I have give rooster respect and props on this board and on Cockytalk so its not like I was always poking him.
2nd: He said the oranges we were to get was flipping Hopper and getting chris steele and we got neither. I've been call Sorrells for ever.
3rd: He 100% absolutely does not know who I am so not sure where that comes from.
Again I have no problem with anyone on here, including rooster. I respect his loyalty that he has shown the school.
As CG can attest I caught hell from everyone when I came on here and the initiation trial went on for weeks. I've seen a post by rooster , in the same recruiting thread, where he questions someones sexuality and ask if they are transsexual for not agreeing with him so I figured he could handle a little poking. I know different now so my fault.
Last I do not agree with bor would I ever on purpose talk any thing negative about another Gamecock fan on the Rant.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:52 am to SOSFAN
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2nd: He said the oranges we were to get was flipping Hopper and getting chris steele and we got neither. I've been call Sorrells for ever.
If this was the oranges he was talking about, thats hilarious. Hes been 90% us on crystal balls for like 6 months. I never thought he wouldnt come.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:31 am to SOSFAN
I think he also got pissed at IBG, me, and whoever else was doubting the validity of the particular object that shall not be named.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 9:41 am to lungbuster06
frick it.
Get the ring?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:07 am to SECUSC4
I want to correct myself as I reread his post. It was Dixon ( a fallback guy) and we were supposed to flip steele which we didn't. So we didn't get the oranges he thought but I also thought we would get steele so im wrong. Another poster was wrong about Robinson. Hell we are all wrong at times so if we get ragged about oh well shrug it off and move on.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:11 am to SOSFAN
I just hope we see this ring.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:19 am to SOSFAN
Its recruiting, the kids dont even know half the time until they do something.
At the same time, I could do this and never be wrong:
I got some inside info....I can't tell you...but lemme just say.....peaches.
Then no matter what say I was right after. He was talkin about hopper and steele for sure. Floridas one of 4 close states so its not crazy we get someone from there lol
At the same time, I could do this and never be wrong:
I got some inside info....I can't tell you...but lemme just say.....peaches.
Then no matter what say I was right after. He was talkin about hopper and steele for sure. Floridas one of 4 close states so its not crazy we get someone from there lol
Posted on 2/15/19 at 10:20 am to I Bleed Garnet
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I just hope we see this ring.
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