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Luke Doty and the last touchdown.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 9/19/22 at 12:00 pm
Congrats to Doty on that touchdown throw but to be real here it was probably against the third string and walk-ons. Before we crown him starting QB, the coaches need to work out the kinks with Rattler. They've got two games to do it. If he continues to fail then maybe Doty or someone else.
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 1:17 pm to WC HICK
We don't have coaches on the offensive side.
We have Beamer's friends. Gonna be a tough ask.
We have Beamer's friends. Gonna be a tough ask.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 11:14 am to RoyalAir
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We don't have coaches on the offensive side.
We have Beamer's friends. Gonna be a tough ask.
A good OC has some weapons at USC he could use.
When Chad "may he smoke a turd in a hell" Morris was hired at Arkansas some people pointed out that he was going to get fired just based off who his OC was. Lo and behold, our offense was awful and it did help Chad to get shown the door.
I get that Satterfield is Beamer's buddy. But is having him as your OC the hill you are willing to let your coaching career die on?
Posted on 9/20/22 at 1:55 pm to Arksulli
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I get that Satterfield is Beamer's buddy. But is having him as your OC the hill you are willing to let your coaching career die on?
For gamecock fans this is a particularly sore subject. That was essentially what Champ did. It drove us crazy.
I think id rather lose a game by 14 where the offense put up points but the defense couldnt stop anyone, over the inverse.
its still a 14 point loss, but man its more exciting. Not being able to score is the more frustrating thing for fans.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:05 pm to GamecockUltimate
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Not being able to score is the more frustrating thing for fans.
Please, that sounds too much like my dating life here in Eastern Arkansas. Dial that back a bit.
Posted on 9/20/22 at 3:51 pm to Arksulli
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get that Satterfield is Beamer's buddy. But is having him as your OC the hill you are willing to let your coaching career die on?
There's enough history to suggest as much, yes.
The problem is that Satterfield's overall scheme is actually pretty interesting. But it's horrifically complicated, and requires too much processing. Which is part of the reason Rattler cannot see the open man, because he doesn't have time (nor is he very good at) making his full reads.
Couple that with the fact that Satt has no feel, or cohesive idea of how to actually call plays and string ideas together, and here we are.
This may wind up going down as a more egregious waste of talent than when Bryan McClendon squandered Deebo Samuel, Shi Smith, Bryan Edwards, Rico Dowdle and Ty'Son Williams. Every one of those SOBs is in the NFL.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 10:21 am to RoyalAir
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The problem is that Satterfield's overall scheme is actually pretty interesting. But it's horrifically complicated, and requires too much processing.
Chad and company were here for two years and only managed to "install" 25 percent of their offense. Too complicated is not a great thing in football.
I remember Pittsburgh Steelers QB Bubby Brister talking about the plays that were getting signaled in by his OC. He rattled off a three sentence line of code words, numbers, and letters. As he said... "How am I supposed to remember all of that, call it to the boys, and then find the open receiver?"
You have to hit the sweet spot in complexity. Too little is actually better than too much though.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 11:58 am to Arksulli
I'm not defending Satterfield, at all.
The system is too complicated, and lacks cohesion. In no small part because Satterfield just grabs stuff from random playbooks, and doesn't have a cohesive strategy. It's literally a grab bag of different things.
He's in way over his head. I haven't seen an offense waste this much talent since Greg Knapp squandered Michael Vick and Warrick Dunn with the Falcons.
The system is too complicated, and lacks cohesion. In no small part because Satterfield just grabs stuff from random playbooks, and doesn't have a cohesive strategy. It's literally a grab bag of different things.
He's in way over his head. I haven't seen an offense waste this much talent since Greg Knapp squandered Michael Vick and Warrick Dunn with the Falcons.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 3:56 pm to Arksulli
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I get that Satterfield is Beamer's buddy. But is having him as your OC the hill you are willing to let your coaching career die on?
This has been a hallmark of the program under Ray Tanner going back to spurriers last couple of years. After the epic defensive collapse in 2014, any other program would have fired Lorenzo Ward as defensive coordinator as soon as the season ended. Instead, they keep Ward and hire some position coach from the NFL that no one has ever heard of and it goes exactly how practically everyone predicted it would.
Then in 2016, Muschamp hires his OC from his last year at Florida, which ended up getting him fired there and it goes exactly how everyone thought it would.
Hell, if we're being honest, Beamer himself was a buddy hire. Idk if it's a money reason or if Tanner is too fricking weak as an AD but this administration straight up refuses to do what is necessary to win at football.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 7:04 pm to MBGamecock
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but this administration straight up refuses to do what is necessary to win at football.
It's not an attractive job. That's pretty much the long and short of it. You can only hire someone who accepts. And outside of Beamer, maybe Shawn Elliott or Jamey Chadwell actually wanted it.
Chadwell was the better choice. But Beamer had better name recognition.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:22 am to RoyalAir
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Chadwell was the better choice. But Beamer had better name recognition.
I have friends in media at Coastal, Chadwell didnt want the job
Posted on 9/22/22 at 10:01 pm to GamecockUltimate
Yea
I have a big feeling he’s holding out for a better job
And with the way his teams have been. He’s got a nice setup for more 11 win seasons.
I have a big feeling he’s holding out for a better job
And with the way his teams have been. He’s got a nice setup for more 11 win seasons.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 5:34 am
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:09 am to GamecockUltimate
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I have friends in media at Coastal, Chadwell didnt want the job
I heard Chadwell's initial salary expectations were higher than we (I'm not sure if it was Tanner or the BOT) were willing to go, and the discussions with him didn't get very far for that reason.
I think he knew the rebuild of our program was going to take a long time and he wanted assurances of job security that we couldn't provide.
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:12 pm to Bluefin
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I heard Chadwell's initial salary expectations were higher than we (I'm not sure if it was Tanner or the BOT) were willing to go, and the discussions with him didn't get very far for that reason.
I think he knew the rebuild of our program was going to take a long time and he wanted assurances of job security that we couldn't provide.
Honestly, I think it would have been an aggressive hire, similar to a Darren Horn. Chadwell and Coastal had one really good year, and since they are winning but not by as much. Last saturday I asked him about the slow start, and he mentioned they havent looked great and the week before they should have lost.
I am surprised he didnt make the jump when he had that really good coastal team, because it wasnt going to get better than that
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