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re: Josh Belk
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:21 am to SECUSC4
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:21 am to SECUSC4
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Mmm I guess when you WATCH someones game at the same time as YOUR teams game is going on, it seems like they are supporting that team at least a little more than your own team. I mean shite. How do you not watch your game going on.
Hey, coach is going to make you watch your own team on Sunday.... [sarcasm]
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Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:29 am to Lonnie Utah
That makes it just seem more like a job than a team. I guess I'd just like the players to have the passion and fire in them and not just report in like its a job.
If this was anyone else I wouldnt think twice. But this is someone who already
1. committed to a school he didnt really wanna go to.
2. left that school because of god knows what.
3. Showed up way heavier than he was at Clemson(lack of effort)
Keep defending him if you want. Hes just not a team player. Hes a lazy guy who got a job based on his size.
If this was anyone else I wouldnt think twice. But this is someone who already
1. committed to a school he didnt really wanna go to.
2. left that school because of god knows what.
3. Showed up way heavier than he was at Clemson(lack of effort)
Keep defending him if you want. Hes just not a team player. Hes a lazy guy who got a job based on his size.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 9:30 am
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:54 am to SECUSC4
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That makes it just seem more like a job than a team. I guess I'd just like the players to have the passion and fire in them and not just report in like its a job.
I'm not defending belk.
But I believe that the state of the big 2 in college Sports (that being Mens Hoops and Football)
Mostly for these higher touted guys. More in basketball than football but you get what I mean.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:05 am to I Bleed Garnet
uh...what? I dont even understand what you are saying. These arent complete sentences or thoughts.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:43 am to SECUSC4
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uh...what? I dont even understand what you are saying. These arent complete sentences or thoughts.
Big time recruits in football and basketball have one thing on their mind.
Boost their stock for the NBA and NFL.
They do not give a frick about team accolades. They wanna get theirs then make the real cash.
RE: it's a job
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 10:44 am
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:28 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Sorry, but i dont agree with this at all for football. Maybe in basketball for sure. Kyrie played like 10 games for duke and left. they dont care.
Football is different. You see the bond the guys have on the field. Its three years of their lives.
You see it in college games where players like DJ Swearinger smack down a clemson guy and taunt him cuz their rivals...Or Offensive players getting mad and steppin up cuz someone hit your qb late.
You see after NFL games the gamecock players like damiere byrd, hayden hurst, and Captain Munnerlyn taking pictures together, you see them ball out for their team and still dap each other up like Jonathan Joseph and bruce.
I can't really express how much I disagree.
Football is different. You see the bond the guys have on the field. Its three years of their lives.
You see it in college games where players like DJ Swearinger smack down a clemson guy and taunt him cuz their rivals...Or Offensive players getting mad and steppin up cuz someone hit your qb late.
You see after NFL games the gamecock players like damiere byrd, hayden hurst, and Captain Munnerlyn taking pictures together, you see them ball out for their team and still dap each other up like Jonathan Joseph and bruce.
I can't really express how much I disagree.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:02 pm to SECUSC4
Totally agree with your post. Much more loyalty in football than basketball. You just don't see football players that have transfered going back to the other school during a game no less. Everyone can say it was no harm but if that was how everyone actually felt there wouldn't be multiple threads on multiple forums with hundreds of post.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:05 pm to SECUSC4
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Sorry, but i dont agree with this at all for football. Maybe in basketball for sure. Kyrie played like 10 games for duke and left. they dont care.
Football is different. You see the bond the guys have on the field. Its three years of their lives.
You see it in college games where players like DJ Swearinger smack down a clemson guy and taunt him cuz their rivals...Or Offensive players getting mad and steppin up cuz someone hit your qb late.
You see after NFL games the gamecock players like damiere byrd, hayden hurst, and Captain Munnerlyn taking pictures together, you see them ball out for their team and still dap each other up like Jonathan Joseph and bruce.
I can't really express how much I disagree.
I feel ya, but Im talking about highly touted not any of the ones you mentioned.
Those guys need everything to be middle of the road draft picks.
Guys that come in with all the accolades from the start and do well their first year already know. They do well enough to know where they will be drafted, and know exactly what is coming.They know well in advance where they are going to be picked.
Joey Bosa, Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffery etc.
Yes It's a bond but for them their ultimate goal is get to the NFL, not win the SEC or a national title.
Just my opinion.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:08 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Then why when they get to the nfl do they make bets with each where the loser has to wear the school jersey of the winning player? Why do nfl players come back to visit on their off week?
It's all due to loyalty. You don't see that in basketball.
It's all due to loyalty. You don't see that in basketball.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:15 pm to SOSFAN
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Then why when they get to the nfl do they make bets with each where the loser has to wear the school jersey of the winning player? Why do nfl players come back to visit on their off week?
Not once did I say anything about loyal to the school.
Having a highly touted recruit rather make it to the NFL than win the SEC Championship isn't loyalty.
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You don't see that in basketball.
No you do.
They know who made them (and paid them) Coach K has his one and dones come back all the time and guys take pics on IG with their jerseys all the time. Look at how the UK players are with Kentucky (Cousins, Wall etc)
Last night Tyus Jones who stayed one year at Duke was at the game watching it.
Doing that kinda shite isn't what I meant.
I meant now days plays care more about individual accolades than the team accolade than they did years ago.
Because with how much information has come out with head injuries, they know they need to feed their families.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:18 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Ok I hear you. Well to be honest that type of attitude isn't just reserved for athletes it's also the way soceity has become.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:25 pm to SOSFAN
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Ok I hear you. Well to be honest that type of attitude isn't just reserved for athletes it's also the way soceity has become.
I mean I agree and what's wrong with it?
Everyone has to get theirs.
I know it isn't close to the same as college sports, but if a competitor came to you with a highly lucrative offer that you know your current role couldn't match, would you take it? Knowing that if you left, you'd essentially be fricking your old team over because they wouldn't have anyone to fill that spot for a bit?
Posted on 11/7/18 at 1:49 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Dude youre flip flopping all over the place. Youre just trying to play devils advocate any which way.
Fornette and McCaffrey LOVE their schools. Fornette still gives to LSU, and grew up down there. There is a huge difference in competing in a bowl game that will not give you anything for your team at all on your third year, especially if you have a history of injuries, vs going to your rival and watching their game vs. watching your own.
If you can't see that then I'm done with this argument. Loyalty to your team in football is massively more prevalent. They have the "We're going to war with each other" mentality and "being in the trenches" together.
Fornette and McCaffrey LOVE their schools. Fornette still gives to LSU, and grew up down there. There is a huge difference in competing in a bowl game that will not give you anything for your team at all on your third year, especially if you have a history of injuries, vs going to your rival and watching their game vs. watching your own.
If you can't see that then I'm done with this argument. Loyalty to your team in football is massively more prevalent. They have the "We're going to war with each other" mentality and "being in the trenches" together.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:00 pm to SECUSC4
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Dude youre flip flopping all over the place. Youre just trying to play devils advocate any which way.
Fornette and McCaffrey LOVE their schools. Fornette still gives to LSU, and grew up down there. There is a huge difference in competing in a bowl game that will not give you anything for your team at all on your third year, especially if you have a history of injuries, vs going to your rival and watching their game vs. watching your own.
If you can't see that then I'm done with this argument. Loyalty to your team in football is massively more prevalent. They have the "We're going to war with each other" mentality and "being in the trenches" together.
Not flip flopping just not what I meant at first.
Ill sum it up like this.
Kids now days rather come out as a first round draft pick or draft pick in general than win the SEC or win a national title.
Im sticking to that and I think it's still true, but couldn't be said the same as it was years ago.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:13 pm to I Bleed Garnet
and I disagree. 3 years is a long time. These guys wanna make the most of their time their and support their teams to the fullest.
ETA: Unless they are Josh Belk. 18 year olds have some growing to do tho so who knows. Hope he figures it out. Maybe some teammate tough love is required.
ETA: Unless they are Josh Belk. 18 year olds have some growing to do tho so who knows. Hope he figures it out. Maybe some teammate tough love is required.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 2:17 pm to SECUSC4
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and I disagree. 3 years is a long time. These guys wanna make the most of their time their and support their teams to the fullest.
Gotcha.
Agree to disagree.
And no where am I saying they don't "support their team" I just think their personal gain is number one.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:18 pm to I Bleed Garnet
You're asking someone that doesn't believe money and prestige is what makes a person. If I was already making decent money and had a great working relationship with my peers and the company has looked out for me then no I wouldn't jump to the new job. As you get older your understand the other variables.
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:20 pm to SOSFAN
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As you get older you're understand the other variables.
The way I'm going as I get older will be more important.
I'd like to pay in full for my children's college.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 4:53 pm to I Bleed Garnet
After awhile people will be on to you and you will be shunned.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 5:00 pm to SOSFAN
Shunned for paying for my kids college?
That’s shunned now?!? Jk jk
Yea i know what you mean. But this industry has gotten pretty brutal lately so na they won’t.
And ive only been at one firm in my time around
That’s shunned now?!? Jk jk
Yea i know what you mean. But this industry has gotten pretty brutal lately so na they won’t.
And ive only been at one firm in my time around
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