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Golson to SC?

Posted on 5/7/15 at 3:35 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 3:35 pm
Posted by CayceCock13
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 3:39 pm to
Personally do not want, he's a turnover machine.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 3:45 pm to
A lot of posters on the UGA recruiting thread seem to want Golson but I'd be happier if you guys got him.
Posted by Spunky
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

A lot of posters on the UGA recruiting thread seem to want Golson but I'd be happier if you guys got him.




A lot of UGA posters would prefer if you stayed over here too.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 4:50 pm to
Do want.

He's been working on ball security in the off season and he threw 29 TDs last season.

Sure he had a lot of turnovers, but if you think Mitch will meet that level of scoring, I have some property on Lake Hartwell to sell you.

ETA: got # of TDs wrong at first. still not bad.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 5:08 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:15 pm to
I would probably give him a chance if I were SOS.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:27 pm to
The dorks over at CT are bitching about killing Mitch's confidence, betraying the team etc. just looney.

If he comes here, make it clear he's competing for the starting job, it's not guaranteed.

If he wins it, great. If not, well then I'm fully behind Mitch. It's that simple.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:33 pm to
If it's just for one season, then I don't want him. So he's played 1+ seasons at Notre Dame: took them to the NC game when they played a weak-arse schedule of nobodies and rode the wave of media hype because They Are Notre Dame, then got ran the train on by Bama. After that he's either been suspended or unable to keep his starting job.

He'll come to USC for 1 season, create a mess with our existing QB depth, then gone and we have to start all over again. Spurrier ain't gonna be at USC forever folks. If none of the QBs USC keeps going after are good enough that we don't want to bring in transfers left and right on top of them, then Mangus needs to carry his arse on out of Columbia and go back to Middle-Tennessee Southwest State or wherever he was before. Otherwise we need to develop what we keep going after and getting, and move the damn forward....

And I thought Spurrier didn't really like transfer QBs. He doesn't want to take on other QB coach's sloppy seconds. Spurrier has a wierd idiosyncrasy when it comes to his QBs: he doesn't want left-handers, doesn't want the elite talented types, and doesn't want other programs' refuse, even if they are accomplished. He doesn't want people attributing any of the success of his QBs to their natural talents, or to other QB positions coaches, either on his staff or other staffs. He likes to go after the marginal talents who can make the throws he wants them to, and then rely on his gamecalling. Doesn't want them to adlib or put the teams on their backs, etc.

He basically identifies with QB talents that were very much like he was during his playing days: heady, high-IQ guys that aren't physical athletic specimens that can throw the ball through brick walls, but rather are simply winners at the end of the day.

I don't think Golson was ever Spurrier's type of QB, and don't see him going to USC this time around either....
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 5:35 pm
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:35 pm to
I agree. I think it can only help SC. Keep him on a short leash and make it clear that he is there to help the team in whatever way seems most appropriate.
Posted by CayceCock13
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:43 pm to
Also doesn't the SEC have a bylaw or something that would make it very difficult for him to transfer to an SEC school because of what happened with him cheating or whatever it was?
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:47 pm to
Yes but they can apply for a waiver. If that news story came out saying uga and usc were very interested, then that would lend me to believe that uga and usc think they could probably get that waiver.

Cam Newton got kicked out of school for stealing computers and still went to Auburn. Chode Kelly is probably going to Ole Miss eventually. It isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Posted by CayceCock13
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:48 pm to
True.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

If it's just for one season, then I don't want him.


He only has 1 season of eligibility man.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

He only has 1 season of eligibility man.


Well then I wouldn't think that my above comment would be that difficult to decipher.....
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 6:19 pm to
Well then why tirade if you can just say the one sentence? haha I'm just busting your balls man.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

our existing QB depth


What QB depth? We literally have nobody and Mitch is gonna be a guaranteed dud.

I'm not sure why people have expectations for him. He couldn't beat out Dylan "Derp" Thompson last year. Coaches are looking at transfers this year. And most damning is the USc football players saying he won't be worth a damn. He is the second coming of Garcia at best if he plays. He simply doesn't care enough about football and too much for 5 points and the ganja.


And if I posted that on CT I'd be banned instantly
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Also doesn't the SEC have a bylaw or something that would make it very difficult for him to transfer to an SEC school because of what happened with him cheating or whatever it was?


If the SEC had a bylaw about accepting transfers of people who got in trouble, Auburn would not have a football team.



j/k

Although, that SEC bylaw thing is correct, I saw the actual bylaw someone posted on another site. However, if Cam, Swag, Maoli, Marshall, Matthews, etc... can transfer, then there is no reason why he Golson would be rejected.

I'm kind of 'meh' over the possibility of him transferring to SC. Golson had almost a 2:1 TD/INT ratio and completed less that 60% of his passes over 2 seasons. He also was just basically told he was being demoted to 2nd string on an ND team to a younger QB. The Arizona State game destroyed his confidence, I think, with the 4 INT's. He also didn't have nearly as many rushing yards as I thought he would've had, although, maybe that's just due to a dual threat QB not being a part of ND's system. He lost a lot of yards though in 2014 on TFL's and sacks.

Spurrier and Mangus know what to do better than any of us though, they see the practices and understand the position/system better. If we take him, it's b/c we think we can be more successful with him this coming season. If we take him, I don't think Mitch goes WhineyBitch Mode. I think Mitch will get mad and get motivated even more. Mitch has been preparing all spring to have this be his team, hopefully he won't let it go without a fight. If that's the case, competition only makes everyone stronger...and scares off the losers.

This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 8:25 pm
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

What QB depth? We literally have nobody and Mitch is gonna be a guaranteed dud.

I'm not sure why people have expectations for him. He couldn't beat out Dylan "Derp" Thompson last year. Coaches are looking at transfers this year. And most damning is the USc football players saying he won't be worth a damn. He is the second coming of Garcia at best if he plays. He simply doesn't care enough about football and too much for 5 points and the ganja.


And if I posted that on CT I'd be banned instantly


I'm sorry, I just cannot understand this line of reasoning.

What reasons do you have that "guarantees" any USC QB being a dud?

Why would a red-shirt freshman be expected to "beat out" a 5th-year senior in Thompson, who has multiple starts and wins under his belt?

Dylan "Derp" Thompson couldn't beat out Shaw but still turned in one of the most prolific single seasons for a USC QB, once he got his chance.

What USC players are saying that someone won't be "worth a damn", and who are they referring to? Is it Mitch? No USC player has publicly stated anything negative towards Mitch, and no insider online source has made any suggestions that they have.

This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 10:46 pm
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 5/7/15 at 11:56 pm to
Playing devil's advocate here, because the idea that Mitch will surely be a dud is nonsense. Kid could be lights out, we don't know yet.

Devil's advocate begin:

Thompson played a lot in games he didn't start (minus clemson 2012) because Shaw's running ways got him hurt. (see 2012 and Outback Bowl v. Michigan) Thompson got a lot of experience by default. Not saying he didn't shine when he did though.

Thompson was prolific last year? Really? Stats don't lie, but neither does the win column. Not saying last season was all Thompson's fault (cough*defense*cough) but to say Thompson was 'prolific' is nuts.

Lastly, I don't know of any players saying that Mitch won't be good. However, I have seen posters on this board and others say Mitch likes to party (who doesn't) and needs to get his act together. It does seem like he's done so, but it remains to be seen on the field of play.

Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Thompson was prolific last year? Really? Stats don't lie, but neither does the win column. Not saying last season was all Thompson's fault (cough*defense*cough) but to say Thompson was 'prolific' is nuts.


Thompson did have his faults, particularly when it came to making clutch plays in certain situations. Let's face it: not everyone can be Connor Shaw.

But anyone who would deny that Dylan's lone season as starter at QB last year was NOT prolific either doesn't understand what the definition of the word is, or they are a Dylan Thompson hater just to show that they can hate on Dylan Thompson, or they are a fraud as a USC fan.

Thompson's stats speak for themselves, and the high scoring offense he led last season was the 3rd-highest scoring average in USC program history. Dylan led the SEC in total passing yds (USC record) and passing yds per game. Thompson set program records in total offensive yds, completions and passing attempts in a season. Tied Shaw for the USC record for TDs responsible for in a single season.

Dylan finished in the top 10 all-time for USC QBs in career passing yds, attempts, completions, completion %, passing TDs, and total offense playing essentially one single season as the true starter.

The reason USC went 7-6 was mostly (if not entirely) on the defense's watch. Dylan can't be blamed for that. Still, overall Dylan was 10-6 as a starting QB, which is a pretty decent winning % when you consider the winning % of past USC QBs not named Connor Shaw...
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 7:34 am
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