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re: Nation's Top RB Branson Robinson Commits To Georgia

Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:13 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:13 am to
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Are we talking blue chip recruits, or college players? Because if it's the latter, Mississippi produces more NFL players than "blue chip" recruits. That publication you posted is made for people like you.




That publication just puts out what the recruiting services say. And Mississippi does not put out as many great NFL players as Florida, Georgia, Texas etc does. Nothing against Mississippi, because of population and other factors.

Here is the statement you took offense to:
Mississippi doesn't put out a ton of great recruits, but the ones they do put out are of very high quality.

Typically in a recruiting thread we talk about recruits, and recruits are gauged by their starts. You can argue all you want about how accurate the ratings are, but the fact remains that the teams that
recruit at or near the top according to the stars are the teams that typically play for the championships.

Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, LSU etc usually are in the mix.
Note I said GREAT players. Does Mississippi put out some great players? Absolutely. Would you like for me to list all of the great NFL players those other states have put out over the years.

Please don't embarrass yourself.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 8:47 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:15 am to
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ETA you still do very well when it comes down to per participant making it to the NFL.Probably top 5


And this is what I was trying to so inelegantly say. For the number of players the state puts out they are of very high quality.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14099 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:14 am to
Read my last post again, carefully, because I want it to sink in.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Read my last post again, carefully, because I want it to sink in.


reread it. here it is:
Are we talking blue chip recruits, or college players? Because if it's the latter, Mississippi produces more NFL players than "blue chip" recruits. That publication you posted is made for people like you.


I am talking the difference between regular players and top of the line players. This is a college football board and we are talking about college football recruits, are we not? I thought this point was pretty obvious.

Mississippi does not put out the number of big time college football players that a lot of other states do. I gave you the numbers and a link to those numbers that are put out by the recruiting services.

RD showed you that Mississippi has somewhere around 14 or 15th as far as players in the NFL.....just about the same as number of college Blue Chip players.

The place (state wise) Mississippi holds as far as NFL players is about the same as they hold for College Blue Chip players.

I'm not sure how you are missing this very important point.


Mississippi does not put out as many players in college or the NFL as other states do. And I have already acknowledged that the ones they do put out are of very high caliber. Now tell me where I am wrong.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

What is the username of this said poster?


I have never seen him post anywhere besides the Bama board so I don’t think you would know him.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14099 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Mississippi does not put out as many players in college or the NFL as other states do. And I have already acknowledged that the ones they do put out are of very high caliber. Now tell me where I am wrong.


You're comparing Mississippi to states with populations ranging from nearly 5 million to 30 million. MS has 2.9 million and is mostly scouted over, even though they continue to miss on prospects. There are five areas of the state that are scouted, i.e. metro Jackson, Golden Triangle, coast, pinebelt, and south Memphis. After that it's a wash, and kids end up with a default rating.

And with juco prospects it's even worse. This despite MS having the best juco football system in the country.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39984 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 6:10 pm to
You’re arguing something different than him. He’s talking total blue chip recruits and you’re trying to make this per capita and NFL players. Y’all are just going to continue to go in circles on this.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

You're comparing Mississippi to states with populations ranging from nearly 5 million to 30 million. MS has 2.9 million and is mostly scouted over, even though they continue to miss on prospects. There are five areas of the state that are scouted, i.e. metro Jackson, Golden Triangle, coast, pinebelt, and south Memphis. After that it's a wash, and kids end up with a default rating.

And with juco prospects it's even worse. This despite MS having the best juco football system in the country.



Crap dude. Isn't that exactly what I said?

Do you know what RIF means. It is a term that was used back in the 70's. Reading Is Fundamental.

I plainly said that Mississippi does not put out the big numbers that other states do. I also said that there were a number of factors, one being population.
I also said for the number of recruits they put out they are of very high quality.

And all you want to do is argue with me, then repeat exactly what I have been saying?

Dude.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:02 am to
Looks like Reservoir is arguing with himself.

[quote]Mississippi doesn't put out a ton of great recruits


False[/quote]

The first statement was clearly true and he's either confused or just won't admit he's wrong and take the loss.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:14 am to
quote:

The first statement was clearly true and he's either confused or just won't admit he's wrong and take the loss.


I'm not sure what the argument is anymore, so I will just bow out and let it go. he can have the last say. If anybody is interested they can read what has been said and see for themselves.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14099 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 4:37 pm to
Mississippi has 2.9 million population, it packs quite the punch for athletes. The state is almost 40 percent African American, so it has elite athletes for football. Dan Mullen did pretty good recruiting mainly just Mississippi players. Most of those kids were 3* and even 2* kids. Now the recruiting services are only going to cover about a dozen high school kids here every year, and maybe 5 juco players, which is a disservice to themselves and their subscribers.

Mississippi trounces several states with larger populations in producing athletes.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39984 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 5:30 pm to
So your new argument is that the recruiting services miss on the kids.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14099 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

So your new argument is that the recruiting services miss on the kids.


They miss on plenty.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39984 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:29 am to
Not almost an entire state. Go derail another thread. You’ve trolled enough in this one.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10745 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 10:05 am to
This is a kid that probably signs with MSU if they have a RB friendly offense. He's from a heavy MSU territory and has a lot of State people around him.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32817 posts
Posted on 7/27/21 at 5:56 pm to
Probably not
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