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Bama either missed on WR recruits or they just don’t have pride/work ethic.

Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:23 am
Posted by JohnnyFins
Member since Nov 2022
193 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:23 am
The pure lack of YAC is telling. This could also be on Bob for bad route trees/scheming, but it’s hard to believe that with what Jameson and Metchie did.

The receivers catch the ball and just go down way too easily. No fight.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13196 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:27 am to
When you send all 4 receivers on 7 yd curl routes , not much YAC to be had. Missed on some too
Posted by JohnnyFins
Member since Nov 2022
193 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:30 am to
Then why did Jameson and Metchie succeed last season?

The online was arguably worse last season too.

Doesn’t make sense that BoB would change the route trees that much unless the receivers were just arse and couldn’t run the routes that the other two did.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:32 am to
Bama had several seasons of misses at WR and OL. They also had depth issues at RB due more to injury.

They tried to use the portal to address all of them last off season. They were somewhat successful at RB, not really on the OL and WR.

Bama fans tried to claim this was just picking up good players, not addressing team deficiencies. I think now many will admit this WAS an attempt to address real problems.

They're in a similar situation today. After seeing their depth at QB, they look to need an immediate solution there. The OL and WR still seem to be issues. And it's unclear if the guys coming up to replace those moving on with their defense are going to hit or not. They'll be hitting the portal again to address deficiencies.
Posted by JohnnyFins
Member since Nov 2022
193 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:33 am to
I agree, and Saban must have said/done something with all the WR and OL in the portal.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:33 am to
The OL was actually better. Produced over 40 more YPG on the ground. Cut the sacks from 41 to 20.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:34 am to
K. Keep us posted, and thanks for your interest in the program.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:34 am to
Yes.

Remember in 2018 when Saban brought in five young assistants?

In hindsight, I don't think those guys did so great at recruiting evaluations.

I have been commenting here for years on how Josh Gattis (the WR coach) seemingly had one foot out the door the whole time.

IMO, these last couple of seasons have been a direct result of this, but only time will tell.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:36 am to
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The pure lack of YAC is telling. This could also be on Bob for bad route trees/scheming, but it’s hard to believe that with what Jameson and Metchie did.


The Harrell injury and signing Burton before testing the waters hurt us bad. We were missing a deep threat all year. Saban jumped the gun with Burton when we lost Hall, imho. We had no space left by the time Addison hit the portal.
Posted by JohnnyFins
Member since Nov 2022
193 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:36 am to
I don’t believe the OL was better. The running backs were more explosive this season and Bryce was dodging sacks like a damn maniac this season.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13196 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:38 am to
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Then why did Jameson and Metchie succeed last season? The online was arguably worse last season too.


Well they were first and second round WRs. Could also take the top off a defense. Have to ask BOOB why he sucks this year .. also the OL was not better this year . At least we had Evan Neal to run behind last year
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:39 am to
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The OL was actually better. Produced over 40 more YPG on the ground. Cut the sacks from 41 to 20.


That’s a very misleading statistic. Over half the sacks last year were Bryce holding the ball well past 5 seconds to let Jamo, Metchie and Bolden get open. Bryce was camping in the pocket last year. He was running for his life this year.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:39 am to
I’m sure some of it was a better pocket awareness from Young. But how often did he have 5-plus seconds to find an open man? The OL improved under Wolford. Even if part of that is other positions also having improvement. At the end of the day it all has to work in unison to be effective.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72175 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:40 am to
Believe what you will. Y’all are going to bitch no matter what.
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
975 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:40 am to
It didn't help that Bryce Young played half the season with an injury. Seriously, since the injury in the Arkansas game, you can count the number of deep balls he threw on one hand.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:43 am to
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don’t believe the OL was better. The running backs were more explosive this season and Bryce was dodging sacks like a damn maniac this season.


You’re 100% right. You can’t look at 2 statistics and say they were better. This was our worst oline since 07. We were down to 2 of our top 5 RBs at midseason last year and neither BRob or Sanders had breakaway speed. The YPC this year is extremely inflated by tons of 50+ yard runs by Jace and Gibbs. Both were faster than most DBs we played so if they hit the 2nd level they were gone.
Posted by JohnnyFins
Member since Nov 2022
193 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:44 am to
No one was open on deep balls. They weren’t early in the year either.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:45 am to
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The OL improved under Wolford.


I agree the coaching was better but the talent was WAY worse. We only have one online man that started 75% of snaps that could sniff the first 3 rounds of the draft in the next 2 seasons.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 10:46 am
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4184 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:47 am to
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I don’t believe the OL was better. The running backs were more explosive this season and Bryce was dodging sacks like a damn maniac this season.


I tend to agree with this.

Young was always under duress this year against decent teams. He was masterful dealing with it, but the pressure was still there.

The RB's (both those coming back from injury and the GT kid) played well... but from what I saw a lot of that was them making plays to avoid the defense rather than great blocking.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/6/22 at 10:47 am to
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It didn't help that Bryce Young played half the season with an injury. Seriously, since the injury in the Arkansas game, you can count the number of deep balls he threw on one hand.


It certainly hurt in the LSU game.
The online and WRs were just not up to standard this year.
One major problem was Holden getting so much playing time. He was a liability on 95% of the routes he walked.
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