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re: Jimbo can’t coach

Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:24 am to
Posted by Ag_16
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:24 am to
100% agree with this, something needs to improve next year. Maybe losing King was bigger than we thought (who knows) I'm sure we'll find out next year
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58126 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 8:58 am to
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I'm sure we'll find out next year


We're going to find a 7-5 / 8-4 record and a heaping helping of Ser William Liucci telling us he knew all along it was a rebuilding year and the schedule was too difficult to expect anything better. But if we just wait until '23...

09/03 - Sam Houston State
09/10 - Appalachian State
09/17 - Miami
09/24 - vs Arkansas
10/01 - at Mississippi State
10/08 - at Alabama
10/15 - bye
10/22 - at South Carolina
10/29 - Ole Miss
11/05 - Florida
11/12 - at Auburn
11/19 - UMass
11/26 - LSU

Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 9:16 am to
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100% agree with this, something needs to improve next year. Maybe losing King was bigger than we thought (who knows) I'm sure we'll find out next year


Actually I think the better statement would be that losing King was as big as we thought. We lost 3 very close games and one close game. Having a very limited QB hurt badly. Calzada is a tough SOB (whining Insta post aside that was likely responding to LSU trolls) but in the end he can't run, he is terrible at pre-snap reads, and he gets nervous under pressure and has the tiptoe 20 yards behind the LOS habit.

That meant we could not rely on him to run for anything (though he managed a couple of surprising runs ironically in his very limited attempts on scrambles. Thus we could only have a run game focused on running backs with no Read Option. King dramatically changes this.

The lack of pre-read snap ability was even more painful though. It meant that the play called from the sideline had to be the right one because Calzada couldn't see "There are 8 guys in the box and I have 4 wideouts with a RB and the call is a run. Maybe I should audible out of this off tackle run and throw the ball to a WR that is 1 on 1." That was Mond's biggest strength and something Calzada struggles with mightily. If you had King the reads may or may not be better but he has FAR better improvisational ability because of his athleticism.

The tiptoe habit combined with the lock on to WR habit were really tough when combined with those first 2 issues. He improved as the season went on but when he got under pressure like he did with LSU he reverted. You could tell Jimbo was working with him but it's just hard to re-program natural instincts under pressure. We saw enough of King he was an improviser and certainly wasn't afraid of blitzes, if anything he looked at a blitz as an opportunity to run or to make a quick throw. He's a lot more of a gunslinger.

Much of those issues would also have been less had we had a more experienced OL, especially in the early losses. Having a talented but inexperienced OL combined with a QB like Calzada was going to result in an inconsistent offense.

BTW, none of this absolves Jimbo. He's the HC in Year 4 and he owns it. He also owns some tactical errors like "Why didn't we have a LOT more formations with Achane and Spiller on the field at the same time, especially with our lack of WR talent?" Occasionally we would have Smith and one of the RB's but very rarely did we have Achane and Spiller, we saw some of the result with Achane at WR as well against LSU. Why we didn't have them moving all over the place and confusing defenses made no sense. Plenty of other tactics to criticize as well.

In the end though King going down made our path to the Playoff much, much harder and left very little margin for error. We ended up 8-4 which if you look at the predictions after King went down are about where we thought. The surprise is that we beat Bama and lost the 4 games we did but inconsistent QB play will do that.

Sorry for the rational football discussion.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15205 posts
Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:34 am to
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Maybe losing King was bigger than we thought (who knows) I'm sure we'll find out next year

There were going to be growing pains with Haynes King. I remember when Johnny Football stepped on the field and one knew he had the "it factor". In some way that needs to happen with a new QB whether it is King or Weigman. The stakes are too high not to have at least two very talented QB ready to play.
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