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Was at a charity event last night and we were seated next to a gal who is a Psychiatrist

Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:05 am
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:05 am
She lives in the South, but went to school up North and is into basketball and pro football. As our small talk progressed, I asked her about the strange infatuation fans have with the back up QB. Especially in situations where some fans think the back up is better and give a myriad of reasons why the coach is stupid for not making the clear choice. She didn’t have to think about it long and had an answer that made a lot of sense. If forget the term she used, but it was along the lines of…” people with lower emotional IQ have a difficult time accepting loss or failure. They will put up fences or roadblocks to protect themselves from the inevitable loss that will happen in sports. In your quarterback situation, they will blame the coach, the players, and even the fans of the players as this will keep the pain of the loss from being their responsibility. You will find that these same people will find a new fence, when the old one resolves itself.”

Based on this new info, I feel like we need to be kinder to our emotionally challenged fans. They clearly have deeper struggles in their lives. Go Dawgs.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:17 am to
Sounds like she described today’s “everyone gets a trophy effeminate coddled never experienced failure safe space perpetually offended self-righteous virtue signaling Progressive”. So makes sense.
This post was edited on 11/7/21 at 8:19 am
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:23 am to
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people with lower emotional IQ have a difficult time accepting loss or failure


Probably a good example of everyone in our politics lately
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:32 am to
It’s not your fault Olddawg. Stetson won’t hurt you.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11261 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 8:33 am to
Fandom compounded by the idea that:

For some reason a side must be picked
There is a clear best choice
The grass is always greener

They both may literally be the correct answer.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:04 am to
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Fandom compounded by the idea that: For some reason a side must be picked There is a clear best choice The grass is always greener They both may literally be the correct answer.


The correct answer is to cheer for your team. Enjoy your wins accept you have no control over the losses. You do not need to protect your emotions with a JT. It is going to be ok.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13144 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 9:15 am to
low emotion IQ. That is insulting as hell.

Is she cute enough to frick?
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 10:23 am to
It is not supposed to be insulting. I do not think that is the intent.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16325 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 11:35 am to
Its like all things, people chose sides long ago, when their candidate hero screws up the rationalize and make excuses, then belittle yours no matter what they have done, Cure Cancer? They invented just so they could take credit for curing it...
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 11:50 am to
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Its like all things, people chose sides long ago, when their candidate hero screws up the rationalize and make excuses, then belittle yours no matter what they have done, Cure Cancer? They invented just so they could take credit for curing it...


I do not think that’s the context. The JT thing is the “protection”. If UGA loses, it will not hurt them as bad, in their minds, because it wasn’t their fault. It was the coaches… and they knew better than the coaches. It is because they are deeply emotionally invested in this and they do not have the emotional IQ to handle the loss, which inevitably comes.

People supporting the current QB do not really apply to this as if the team loses with the current QB, they can’t blame the 2nd string QB.

The interesting thing to watch in all of this is if JT takes back over, which is possible….watch these same people and see if they find their next “JT” to protect their fragile psyche. This should be a great study.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16325 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 11:53 am to
Well said, i honestly just want to get it done. Team has gelled with stet at this time but we get through TN we have two scrub games to get JT back to playing at a high level.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36722 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 6:41 am to
couldnt a psychiatrist easily go on a "low emotional IQ" rant about people who are afraid of change and unwilling to take risks so they remain complacent with what they have and never unleash their full potential
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 7:08 am to
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couldnt a psychiatrist easily go on a "low emotional IQ" rant about people who are afraid of change and unwilling to take risks so they remain complacent with what they have and never unleash their full potential


She made a good point about this being a situation you have no control over. I do not think your situation applies as no fan can really make a change. I guess you can say they can boo to try and force change. I need to ask her about that if I get the chance.
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:40 am to
It continues to baffle me how some fans think they know more about football coaching decisions than professional coaches who have been at it for decades, and are at practice and meetings every day.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36722 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:57 am to
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It continues to baffle me how some fans think they know more about football coaching decisions than professional coaches who have been at it for decades, and are at practice and meetings every day.


there is likely a lot of merit to this line of thinking. god knows i get annoyed when someone tells me how to do my job and has absolutely no clue what they are talking about. and these guys are better at their job than i am at mine.

the main problem here is that pretty much no matter what your view on the fromm vs. fields situation is, the coaching staff handled it incorrectly, and we all saw that. so when a similar (not nearly identical, but there are definitely similarities) situation arises, we have reason to doubt
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 8:58 am
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:08 am to
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there is likely a lot of merit to this line of thinking. god knows i get annoyed when someone tells me how to do my job and has absolutely no clue what they are talking about. and these guys are better at their job than i am at mine.

the main problem here is that pretty much no matter what your view on the fromm vs. fields situation is, the coaching staff handled it incorrectly, and we all saw that. so when a similar (not nearly identical, but there are definitely similarities) situation arises, we have reason to doubt


The way I see it, one QB helped take us to the Natty and we lost in OT to Bama… the other took his team to the Natty and got the shite kicked out of him by Bama, so, there’s that part.
The delusion is that some folks are speculating as to what could have been as fact, even though we should know that there are always unintended consequences with every scenario. Maybe Kirbs fricked up. Not really sure, but to be certain either way, with a limited base of knowledge and selective hindsight is pretty narcissistic in my humble opinion.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36722 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:57 am to
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The way I see it, one QB helped take us to the Natty and we lost in OT to Bama… the other took his team to the Natty and got the shite kicked out of him by Bama, so, there’s that part.
The delusion is that some folks are speculating as to what could have been as fact, even though we should know that there are always unintended consequences with every scenario. Maybe Kirbs fricked up. Not really sure, but to be certain either way, with a limited base of knowledge and selective hindsight is pretty narcissistic in my humble opinion.

i don't necessarily disagree with anything in particular, but the way we used fields the entire year was almost definitely not the right way to do things. this culminated in the single worst play call i think ive ever seen as a uga fan, the 4th and 11 fake punt. i dont really think that one play had any impact on a fields decision, but holy shite that play was terrible in foresight, hindsight, and any type of sight you want to use

maybe he wasn't a fit for us and our scheme, but he didnt suddenly become a completely different player simply by transferring schools. we all thought fields was being misused the entire time. i don't think that's hindsight. im not saying start day 1 and i loved fromm coming off that run to the natty. however, in that situation and definitely in this current one as well, the more talented player is not playing.

it's not just de facto the right move because the coaches are doing it. coaches are wrong all the fricking time. it very well might be the right move, but they aren't infallible and we literally have evidence of that. seems fair to me that we are allowed to question if it's happening again
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46113 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:58 am to
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It continues to baffle me how some fans think they know more about football coaching decisions than professional coaches who have been at it for decades, and are at practice and meetings every day.
I agree with this, at least in principle. CKS has been consistently good at what he's been doing since he took the job. With few exceptions, we've been prepared for games, getting quality talent, and winning games we should win. Smart has earned our trust, regardless of what people think about the QB situation in 2018.

With that said, sometimes coaches with their careers on the line can't see the forest for the trees and they may make bad decisions. Professionals aren't perfect and they make mistakes all the time. I think it's perfectly fine to critique coaches when they deviate from what is expected, such as the case in Florida.

Grantham has been a professional coach for many years, and while he has some strengths, his weaknesses were obvious and costing his teams games. I think it is fair for the fans to criticize him for the results he has put on the field. Same goes for all coaches, including our own. Perhaps we shouldn't be too quick to judge the minutia since we don't have the insight that the coaches do day-to-day, but we should keep our eyes on the results as a possible indication of how the day-to-day is going.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14024 posts
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:14 am to
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i don't necessarily disagree with anything in particular, but the way we used fields the entire year was almost definitely not the right way to do things. this culminated in the single worst play call i think ive ever seen as a uga fan, the 4th and 11 fake punt. i dont really think that one play had any impact on a fields decision, but holy shite that play was terrible in foresight, hindsight, and any type of sight you want to use

maybe he wasn't a fit for us and our scheme, but he didnt suddenly become a completely different player simply by transferring schools. we all thought fields was being misused the entire time. i don't think that's hindsight. im not saying start day 1 and i loved fromm coming off that run to the natty. however, in that situation and definitely in this current one as well, the more talented player is not playing.

it's not just de facto the right move because the coaches are doing it. coaches are wrong all the fricking time. it very well might be the right move, but they aren't infallible and we literally have evidence of that. seems fair to me that we are allowed to question if it's happening again


I think Kirbs learned that you can’t disrupt your team now to keep a kid around that may not quite be ready yet. And maybe Fields learned that if he was a little more patient and a team player, he could have stayed at UGA and had a similar if not better career at UGA.
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