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Posted on 11/7/21 at 6:22 pm to
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 11/7/21 at 6:22 pm to
Polical parties are functionally binary. Very few places have sustainable 3rd parties.

So we are down to 1 party systems like the USSR, Cuba, China, Nazi Germany. This is what the left in the US is trying to create and the media is in the middle of it. It would be the end of the US.

Two party system has its flaws but is the ying and yang of human nature. Its not perfect but it is the more perfect way. Thank god for it as it is democracy.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 7:13 pm to
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Polical parties are functionally binary. Very few places have sustainable 3rd parties.

So we are down to 1 party systems like the USSR, Cuba, China, Nazi Germany. This is what the left in the US is trying to create and the media is in the middle of it. It would be the end of the US.

Two party system has its flaws but is the ying and yang of human nature. Its not perfect but it is the more perfect way. Thank god for it as it is democracy.
Except we don’t really even have 2 political parties. It’s been bastardized and corrupted and changed into something else.

And, in its current state, it enables this 49/51 to 51/49 constant pendulum control mechanism.

Imagine what would happen if 60-70%+ of the voting population were in ideological, social, economical, and governance agreement.

Every bill passed and law enforced would actually be to that majority’s true benefit. Career politicians wouldn’t exist. True public servants would. Special interests would have no power or influence. Corporate America wouldn’t be filled with and controlled by monopolies. True competition would permeate. Wealth pooling would be vastly curtailed and perpetual redistribution of wealth would be organic and consistent. Opportunity would be boundless and quality of life for the middle and lower classes would be drastically higher. Resources and money would be managed efficiently, and those who are truly incapable of self-sufficiency would have access to vastly more assistance and charity.

And the list of improvement could go on and on. But the thing that’s holding all this back is the facade that we have 2 separate political parties. But we don’t. We have a control mechanism that “Elites” exploit to prevent us from uniting and taking control back, ending their reign, and doing exactly what I described would happen if we truly had all the power.

We so desperately need a convention of states so we can implement Congressional and judicial term limits, eliminate special interest influence, drastically reform campaign financing, and completely neuter the donor class and government industrial complexes. And then go after the monopolies and oligarchs, audit the Fed, sure up our sovereignty, vastly reduce competition stifling regulations, and greatly overhaul our tax and spending systems.

But this isn’t going to ever happen with how things currently work. And with universal mail-in voting now in existence and an oligarchy in near total control over the future of elections, we are on a path to perpetual feudalism, and ultimately something that very much resembles communism. And it’s going to be a bloody path eventually in the process.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/7/21 at 10:36 pm to
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Very few places have sustainable 3rd parties.


Very few presidential republics have sustainable third parties. Parliamentary republics, however, almost all have multiple sustainable parties. The U.S. and France are the only major democracies who have a separation of power between the legislature and the executive. The UK, Australia, Canada, Germany, Israel, Japan, and Korea are all parliamentary and have thriving multiple parties.

We will never see a third party in the U.S. because the Presidency represents only one party at a time. As a result, there is a high level of inertia pushing Congressional candidates to affiliate with the President’s party or with the opposition party.

Let’s say that one or a few Libertarians or Greens were elected to Congress. Even if they were able to convince a majority of their fellow Congressional Democrats and Republicans to support a piece of legislation, the President would veto it, assuming the legislation was not aligned with normal Republican or Democratic policies. Consider on the other hand that we had a parliamentary system with no President. Those newly elected third party members would wield real power.

I’m not advocating that we change our system, but for those clamoring for more parties, that would likely require us to fundamentally change our system of government to become a parliament. Or perhaps it could work with ranked-choice voting implemented in every state. There are plenty of people who would rather vote third party, but who end up voting D or R because they don’t want to waste their vote if their jurisdiction crowns the winner by plurality, rather than by majority or majority-runoff.
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