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Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I love having some out of state presence at the University. I think it's been good for everyone. I don't love it being ratcheted up to almost 60% of the undergraduate population for going on 5-10 years now.
Spoke to a guy a few years ago at an Economic conference who was on the board of alumni for the school of Engineering at Alabama. He told me he expected Alabama to shift away from its emphasis on growing enrollment through out of state kids... basically said the plan which had been in place for a decade or more had not produced the results the school had hoped it would. He said too often kids were coming to Bama... Having a great 4 years... but then they headed back to where they came from... many not putting much thought into where they went to school within a few years.
Sure enough... Bama's number of incoming new undergrad students has been shrinking since its peak back in 2016:
2016: 7,559
2017: 7,407
2018: 6,663
2019: 6,764
2020: 6,507
And with that, so has the percentage of out of state kids:
2016: 68.1%
2017: 67.5%
2018: 65.9%
2019: 62.6%
2020: 58.5%
Sure enough... incoming new undergrads in 2016 totaled 5,089.... in 2020 that number was down to just 3,772. Meanwhile the number of in-state new undegrads increased from 2,412 up to 2,701 during the same period.
It's obvious Bama is retreating from their plan which seemed to start kicking in back around 2005 or 2006.
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 2:47 pm to BHMKyle
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Spoke to a guy a few years ago at an Economic conference who was on the board of alumni for the school of Engineering at Alabama. He told me he expected Alabama to shift away from its emphasis on growing enrollment through out of state kids... basically said the plan which had been in place for a decade or more had not produced the results the school had hoped it would. He said too often kids were coming to Bama... Having a great 4 years... but then they headed back to where they came from... many not putting much thought into where they went to school within a few years. Sure enough... Bama's number of incoming new undergrad students has been shrinking since its peak back in 2016: 2016: 7,559 2017: 7,407 2018: 6,663 2019: 6,764 2020: 6,507 And with that, so has the percentage of out of state kids: 2016: 68.1% 2017: 67.5% 2018: 65.9% 2019: 62.6% 2020: 58.5% Sure enough... incoming new undergrads in 2016 totaled 5,089.... in 2020 that number was down to just 3,772. Meanwhile the number of in-state new undegrads increased from 2,412 up to 2,701 during the same period. It's obvious Bama is retreating from their plan which seemed to start kicking in back around 2005 or 2006.
This is exactly right. The emphasis now with the new President is to increase in-state students and increase Graduate school students to bring in even more research $$$. We are slowly getting there and the research $$$ has been booming lately. It was silly to think that these Out of state students would actually consider staying in this state for their careers. This in turn has absolutely KILLED our in-state recruiting for the larger metros. When I graduated high school in 2005 in Huntsville, there were more kids going to UA than anywhere. Last year I believe AU doubled the amount of kids going to AU than kids going to UA in Huntsville. An absolute shame and it shows in the workforce too.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:48 pm to BHMKyle
The University of Alabama will be much better off in the long run without 65 percent of its students coming from out of state. None work in Alabama after graduation and probably give very little back to the schools endowment either.
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